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College Football Playoff Calculator

Posted on 10/27/17 at 12:42 pm
Posted by profwilson
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Posted on 10/27/17 at 12:42 pm
The folks at 538 have an interesting college football playoff calculator, using multiple simulations to determine each team's chances of winning their conference, making the playoff, and winning the national title:

538 CFP Calculator

According to their analysis, twenty teams have at least a 1% chance of making the playoff as of today. Four of them are from the SEC: Alabama at 70%, Georgia at 39%, Auburn at 5%, and LSU at 1%. Anyway, what's neat is that you can see how the probabilities change in different scenarios, like winning or losing the next game and winning out. Anyway, just thought folks might find it interesting.
Posted by five_fivesix
Y’all
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Posted on 10/27/17 at 12:43 pm to
Chicken said there would be no math.
Posted by Atxgump
Austin
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 10/27/17 at 12:44 pm to
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Auburn at 5%,


Lol, guess it grades on a curve.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 10/27/17 at 12:44 pm to
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LSU at 1%
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 10/27/17 at 12:46 pm to
Bookmarked.
For shits and giggles.
Posted by warcry
Mobile
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Posted on 10/27/17 at 12:46 pm to
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Auburn at 5%


So you're saying there's a chance?
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 10/27/17 at 12:46 pm to
Florida State made list

List is sh*t
Posted by profwilson
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 10/27/17 at 12:50 pm to
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Florida State made list


Florida State is NOT one of the 20 teams that they say have at least a 1% chance of making the playoff. They are on the graphic, but even if you check the "win out" box for them, they still show less than a 1% chance of winning their conference or making the playoff--which is obviously correct.
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 10/27/17 at 12:56 pm to
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Florida State is NOT one of the 20 teams that they say have at least a 1% chance of making the playoff.


Yes, but still lots of 2 loss SEC teams still in the mix and Cats are 5-2 and not on the list. Granted their odds are long and they probably drop game to Vols, but for right now they are still in play from a straight math sense.
Posted by Wtodd
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Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 10/27/17 at 1:05 pm to
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hicken said there would be no math.

Math is racist
Posted by profwilson
Member since Jul 2004
867 posts
Posted on 10/27/17 at 1:07 pm to
It looks like their cutoff for showing a team on the chart was a top 25 ranking in at least one of the three ratings systems that they look at (FPI, ELO, and the AP Poll), and/or at least a 1% chance of winning their conference or making the playoff. Kentucky doesn't make that cut--whereas Florida State, believe it or not, apparently ranks 16 in the FPI (though they are deservedly unranked by the other two metrics).
This post was edited on 10/27/17 at 1:08 pm
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 10/27/17 at 1:10 pm to
I hate the fact that it pulls that "unlikely to happen" crap. It makes it clear that the 538 folks have never watched a full CFB season.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
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Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 10/27/17 at 1:11 pm to
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Yes, but still lots of 2 loss SEC teams still in the mix and Cats are 5-2 and not on the list. Granted their odds are long and they probably drop game to Vols, but for right now they are still in play from a straight math sense.


Because from their math standards.
And it's Nate Silver he's way smarter than me, not even going to question that.
The Kentucky wildcats do not have chance based on his statistical calculations and simulations.

basic math... yes.

But this is 538, not basic math.
Posted by MistaMike9
Member since Mar 2017
607 posts
Posted on 10/27/17 at 1:18 pm to
Gives LSU a 63% chance to make playoffs. hmmmmm....
Posted by profwilson
Member since Jul 2004
867 posts
Posted on 10/27/17 at 1:28 pm to
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Gives LSU a 63% chance to make playoffs.


I'm not sure where you're getting this. It gives LSU a 66% chance to make the playoffs IF they were to win out--a pretty big assumption. If they just beat Alabama next week (which the model says they have a 10% chance to do), their chance to make the playoff goes up to 12%. All of those percentages sound about right to me.
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 10/27/17 at 1:33 pm to
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But this is 538, not basic math.


Point being, if you have 3 losses you are eliminated from the list PERIOD!'

3-4 Texas would not be on list
5-3 Louisville would not be on list
2-4 Florida State would not be on the list

3-3 Florida is not on list but is better than Florida State right now
5-2 Kentucky is not on list but is better than Texas right now
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 10/27/17 at 1:35 pm to
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Point being, if you have 3 losses you are eliminated from the list PERIOD!'


Because with their math they think those 3 have better chances of winning their conference than Florida or Kentucky has.

If you click win out for all 3 of those teams they are still less than 1% to make the playoff.


Also,
Like I said, this is 538. Not basic math.
This post was edited on 10/27/17 at 1:37 pm
Posted by ChiTownBammer
South Florida
Member since Aug 2014
1127 posts
Posted on 10/27/17 at 1:47 pm to
Are these the people that had Hillary with a 98.7 percent chance of winning up 'til about 8:30 on election night?


Georgia's going blue guys! R-right?
Posted by profwilson
Member since Jul 2004
867 posts
Posted on 10/27/17 at 2:07 pm to
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Are these the people that had Hillary with a 98.7 percent chance of winning up 'til about 8:30 on election night?


Actually, they're not. 538 caught a lot of flack from other analysts in the run-up to the election because they consistently showed Trump with a better chance to win (usually 25-35%) than others did. They correctly perceived, when others didn't, that there was a higher than average degree of uncertainty in the race because Trump was an unconventional candidate, and that the dynamics of the Electoral College actually gave him, not Clinton, a bit of an advantage.

Now, admittedly, none of that has anything to do with college football, but it does show that the folks at 538 tend to be pretty good and careful modelers.
Posted by CrimsonShadow
Montgomery
Member since Nov 2015
1278 posts
Posted on 10/27/17 at 2:16 pm to
Interesting, and like someone said, it's fun to see how it plays out.
Thanks for posting.
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