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Posted on 11/21/19 at 2:38 pm to
Posted by biclops
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 11/21/19 at 2:38 pm to
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Makes absolutely no sense to have Heisman winners literally double the weight of an all-american and triple an NFL draft pick. It's 85% of the weight of a Natty. Just absurd lol.


Exactly.
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
55219 posts
Posted on 11/21/19 at 2:39 pm to
He’s a longhorn blogger who did this specifically so he could tweet it out to recruits
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 11/21/19 at 2:39 pm to
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Yet they are 4-1 against UFAG in that era

Yep, I guess that’s more important than titles. Ride that dick.
Posted by biclops
Member since Oct 2011
6149 posts
Posted on 11/21/19 at 2:40 pm to
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He’s a longhorn blogger who did this specifically so he could tweet it out to recruits


That explains a lot. Problem is, recruits want to make their own history (and, more importantly, money), not go to a school because of what was done decades ago.
Posted by DirtyDawg
President of the East Cobb Snobs
Member since Aug 2013
15539 posts
Posted on 11/21/19 at 2:41 pm to
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He’s a longhorn blogger who did this specifically so he could tweet it out to recruits




Imagine being a guy who tweets @ recruits.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27294 posts
Posted on 11/21/19 at 2:41 pm to
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KYLEUMLANG needs to tweak his system. Like, a lot.


Nevermind I see what he did
This post was edited on 11/21/19 at 2:44 pm
Posted by Mithridates6
Member since Oct 2019
8220 posts
Posted on 11/21/19 at 2:42 pm to
FU got the mulligan in 1996 over more deserving teams, it's garbage just like Bama's from 2011. You were 5-8-1 against your biggest rival during your program's best stretch. FSU has accomplished more despite your 50 year head start (they were an all-girls school before that). Sucks to be a Florida Gator!
Posted by biclops
Member since Oct 2011
6149 posts
Posted on 11/21/19 at 2:42 pm to
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Not his system, correct? He's just putting together other's lists or opinions.Id like to know who put together the last column (microphone on top)


He created the scheme to weight each category, and chose which categories to include at all. To me that makes it his system.

ETA: the last column is natty's
This post was edited on 11/21/19 at 2:44 pm
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 11/21/19 at 2:43 pm to
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FU got the mulligan in 1996 over more deserving teams, it's garbage just like Bama's from 2011. You were 5-8-1 against your biggest rival during your program's best stretch. FSU has accomplished more despite your 50 year head start (they were an all-girls school before that). Sucks to be a Florida Gator!

Ride it.
Posted by Not Cooper
Member since Jun 2015
4676 posts
Posted on 11/21/19 at 2:43 pm to
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.Id like to know who put together the last column (microphone on top)

Posted by Mithridates6
Member since Oct 2019
8220 posts
Posted on 11/21/19 at 2:47 pm to
How does it feel to be the 3rd most accomplished program in your state despite FSU being all-girls until 1947 and Miami being a tiny private school?
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27294 posts
Posted on 11/21/19 at 2:47 pm to
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Id like to know who put together the last column (microphone on top)


Yes,I figured it out.LOL
Posted by Ole Ag
Member since Oct 2018
2246 posts
Posted on 11/21/19 at 2:49 pm to
When applying different weights of importance to different things, he should include time. A national championship from 100 years ago should not carry the weight of one 5 years ago. Anything that happened before integration should not carry much weight. IMHO.
This post was edited on 11/21/19 at 2:51 pm
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 11/21/19 at 2:49 pm to
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How does it feel to be the 3rd most accomplished program in your state despite FSU being all-girls until 1947 and Miami being a tiny private school?

Ride it.
Posted by biclops
Member since Oct 2011
6149 posts
Posted on 11/21/19 at 2:51 pm to
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When applying different weights of importance to different things, he should include time. A national championship from 100 years ago should not carry the weight of one 5 years ago.


Agreed.

quote:

Anything that happened before integration should not carry much weight. IMHO.


Disagree. I'd weight it so that stuff from 100 years ago counts about 1/2 of recent stuff.
This post was edited on 11/21/19 at 2:52 pm
Posted by PeeJayScammedGT
Kennesaw, GA
Member since Oct 2019
2148 posts
Posted on 11/21/19 at 2:51 pm to
TBH this analysis should be done only for the last 50 years, the differences in CFB with the number of schollies and things like that skew the results greatly when you go back beyond 50 years, also the NFL used to have a territorial draft before they had a Common Draft

When Bear Bryant had 193 guys on scholly "hidden" on the swim team, baseball team, golf team and everywhere else it meant that those guys couldn't compete against him, in fact roughly 90% of the NCAA Rulebook was written in direct response to Bear Bryant's cheating ways

Only in the last 50 years has there been a close to level playing field for CFB , though the arms races in Facilities is quickly dismantling what little level playing field there is
Posted by biclops
Member since Oct 2011
6149 posts
Posted on 11/21/19 at 2:52 pm to
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in fact roughly 90% of the NCAA Rulebook was written in direct response to Bear Bryant's cheating ways


If he was cheating, then why didn't they just enforce the rules he was breaking? If they had to make the rules in response to his methods, it means they didn't exist at the time, so what he did wasn't cheating.
This post was edited on 11/21/19 at 2:54 pm
Posted by Mithridates6
Member since Oct 2019
8220 posts
Posted on 11/21/19 at 2:54 pm to
Yep the Bear was untouchable, but all his disciples got busted. Alabama has already had to forfeit a bunch of wins, their entire history should have a giant asterisk next to it. Oklahoma is the only program that comes close RE: cheating
This post was edited on 11/21/19 at 2:58 pm
Posted by DirtyDawg
President of the East Cobb Snobs
Member since Aug 2013
15539 posts
Posted on 11/21/19 at 3:01 pm to
I agree with your statements, but the long and interesting history of college football is still very important.

I think he should have weighted those categories to award more points for titles, trophies, rankings, etc that have taken place within the past 50 years, and then just applied a slightly smaller multiplier to those categories for awards/honors/"events" that happened more than 50 years ago.
Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
15377 posts
Posted on 11/21/19 at 3:17 pm to
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I would drop many that is on the list. After USC at #6 I think the others thta may have had a claim would lose it now. USCw is in danger of losing their status, too.

I wouldn't consider anybody below Penn State as ever having been a blueblood, and Penn State, Texas and Nebraska have lost their claims, imo



as stated. Its a generational thing not even a decade thing.
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