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re: Coaching is dragging the SEC down
Posted on 11/17/16 at 10:24 am to RandySavage
Posted on 11/17/16 at 10:24 am to RandySavage
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QB play is the problem.
This. 2012 was probably the strongest year in conference history (could make an argument for the SEC having 6 of the top 10 teams at season's end) and it was largely because the QB play was outstanding.
Murray
Manziel
McCarron
Mettenberger
Shaw
All of them were among the best QBs in college football. Florida was also very good even though they had Driskel. Even most of the teams who weren't as good still had decent QB play.
Wilson
Franklin
Wallace
Bray
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Posted on 11/17/16 at 10:25 am to RollTide1987
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In 2016, you have Nick Saban and Gus Malzahn.
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Those are the only two coaches in this league who have won an SEC title. And one of them, you could argue, got his ring on a fluke.
I don't think his SEC title was a fluke as much as other teams figuring out his gimmick offense. So really, it is Saban. Maybe in the next couple of years LSU can get back. Only time will tell.
Posted on 11/17/16 at 10:28 am to RollTide1987
We've got some green horn SEC coaches right now.
McElwain (5yrs HC)
Smart (1 yr HC)
Muschamp (5 yrs HC)
Mason (3 yrs HC)
Freeze (6yrs HC)
Malzhan (5yrs HC)
Stoops (4 yr HC)
Odom (1 yr HC)
Over half of the conference coaches have 5 or less yrs of HC experience.
McElwain (5yrs HC)
Smart (1 yr HC)
Muschamp (5 yrs HC)
Mason (3 yrs HC)
Freeze (6yrs HC)
Malzhan (5yrs HC)
Stoops (4 yr HC)
Odom (1 yr HC)
Over half of the conference coaches have 5 or less yrs of HC experience.
Posted on 11/17/16 at 10:28 am to VADawg
Braysus
Posted on 11/17/16 at 10:28 am to RollTide1987
Yes, which is why the Big 10 has caught up to you guys. They now have Urban, Harbs, Dantonio, Franklin etc.
Posted on 11/17/16 at 10:54 am to RollTide1987
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Coaching is starting to drag this league down because now you have one great coach, one or two good ones, and the rest range from mediocre to downright awful.
Posted on 11/17/16 at 11:02 am to RollTide1987
This was posted a while back:
List according the article, Foxsports SEC Coaches Ranking:
1. Nick Saban — Alabama
2. Hugh Freeze — Ole Miss
3. Kevin Sumlin — Texas A&M
4. Bret Bielema — Arkansas
5. Butch Jones — Tennessee
6. Jim McElwain — Florida
7. Gus Malzahn — Auburn
8. Dan Mullen — Mississippi State
9. Ed Orgeron — LSU
10. Derek Mason — Vanderbilt
11. Will Muschamp — South Carolina
12. Kirby Smart — Georgia
13. Barry Odom — Missouri
14. Mark Stoops — Kentucky
There's a whole lot of absolute shite on that list.
#2 is 19-19 in conference games.
#3 is 21-18 in conference games.
#7 is the only coach behind Saban with a title.
#9 is being actively campaigned for by LSU fans to keep the job. (Think about that -- in a list of absolutely shitty coaches, Ed O is #9, and some LSU fans want to keep him vs bringing in a guy who is immediately #2 on this list).
List according the article, Foxsports SEC Coaches Ranking:
1. Nick Saban — Alabama
2. Hugh Freeze — Ole Miss
3. Kevin Sumlin — Texas A&M
4. Bret Bielema — Arkansas
5. Butch Jones — Tennessee
6. Jim McElwain — Florida
7. Gus Malzahn — Auburn
8. Dan Mullen — Mississippi State
9. Ed Orgeron — LSU
10. Derek Mason — Vanderbilt
11. Will Muschamp — South Carolina
12. Kirby Smart — Georgia
13. Barry Odom — Missouri
14. Mark Stoops — Kentucky
There's a whole lot of absolute shite on that list.
#2 is 19-19 in conference games.
#3 is 21-18 in conference games.
#7 is the only coach behind Saban with a title.
#9 is being actively campaigned for by LSU fans to keep the job. (Think about that -- in a list of absolutely shitty coaches, Ed O is #9, and some LSU fans want to keep him vs bringing in a guy who is immediately #2 on this list).
Posted on 11/17/16 at 11:03 am to RLDSC FAN
quote:Slightly o/t: how badly did Bama break Sparty?
They now have Urban, Harbs, Dantonio, Franklin etc
They were 36-4 (.900 winning percentage) since the beginning of the 2013 season going into the playoffs last year. Those four losses came to Notre Dame, Oregon, Ohio state and Nebraska. Their wins included 2 B1G0 championships, the Rose Bowl and the Cotton Bowl.
Counting the playoff debacle, they've lost 8 of their last 11 games (.273), to powerhouses like Indiana, Illinois, Maryland and BYU.
Posted on 11/17/16 at 11:07 am to FearlessFreep
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Counting the playoff debacle, they've lost 8 of their last 11 games (.273), to powerhouses like Indiana, Illinois, Maryland and BYU.
made me lol
Posted on 11/17/16 at 11:16 am to RollTide1987
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got his ring on a fluke
Do you even know what that means?
Auburn went out and bought the best football player out there at the time. They made moves and got him, and won a championship with him. I bet it wouldn't be a fluke if he decided to wear crimson instead
Posted on 11/17/16 at 11:25 am to Guitarcheese
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Do you even know what that means?
Auburn went out and bought the best football player out there at the time. They made moves and got him, and won a championship with him. I bet it wouldn't be a fluke if he decided to wear crimson instead
The fact that you don't even know what year I am talking about tells me you have no business responding to anyone's posts in this thread. I'm referring to 2013, not 2010.
This post was edited on 11/17/16 at 11:33 am
Posted on 11/17/16 at 11:29 am to RandySavage
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QB play is the problem.
QB play is a symptom of poor coaching/recruiting.
Posted on 11/17/16 at 2:08 pm to FearlessFreep
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Slightly o/t: how badly did Bama break Sparty?
Probably not as bad as graduation and the draft broke them. That was a senior heavy team
Posted on 11/17/16 at 2:11 pm to RollTide1987
Perhaps the first time ever that there is considerably more pedigree in the SEC basketball coaching ranks than in football.
Posted on 11/17/16 at 2:13 pm to RollTide1987
Can't argue with this. The Big 10 and ACC have definitely closed the gap in this area.
Posted on 11/17/16 at 2:20 pm to RollTide1987
In the east it is. McElwain is the most respected coach in the east division.
Posted on 11/17/16 at 2:23 pm to RollTide1987
Someone take Mullen, we're split 50/50 on him. It's causing division amongst the fanbase.
Posted on 11/17/16 at 2:37 pm to RollTide1987
Inside the conference, you could say that every coach in the west ,maybe with the exception of sumlin, is better than any coach in the east. Who is the best coach in the east? McElwain?
Posted on 11/17/16 at 2:39 pm to RollTide1987
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a fluke.
You have no room to talk about other coaches on this aspect. Your coach has everything he does because of a fluke.
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Saban Effect
You people really are sad. You really believe this is true.
Posted on 11/17/16 at 2:42 pm to boot
And you're an idiot.
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