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Posted on 7/24/24 at 6:44 pm to Griffindawg
quote:some coaches do well at programs with lower expectations/ceilings
Mullen is baffling. He has miss state rolling and then destroyed Florida.
Rich rod did well at west Virginia and Arizona but was awful at Michigan
Justin Fuentes was great at Memphis and terrible at VT
Mullen is that type of coach. He’d be great for a program like Cuse or BC.
Posted on 7/24/24 at 6:47 pm to Herman Frisco
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Les Miles. LSU has been a laughing stock since.

Posted on 7/24/24 at 6:54 pm to AlterDWI
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USC firing Lane Kiffin
OVERRATED. He sucked arse at USC. He is mediocre at Ole Miss. 1st and 3rd season sucked arse. 2nd and 4th season were good but not amazing. Certainly not deserving of the hype he gets.
Outside of that his only success came in Conference USA. Bad.
Posted on 7/24/24 at 6:58 pm to Tigerroar73
I remember when people thought Richt was the best answer for this. “You fired a 10 win coach!”
Posted on 7/24/24 at 7:04 pm to GiveHimSix
He was fine at state but still couldn't get the players needed to get State over the hump.
Florida thought just being Florida that the name would recruit itself no matter what coach they hired.
They were wrong with Mullen.
Florida thought just being Florida that the name would recruit itself no matter what coach they hired.
They were wrong with Mullen.
Posted on 7/24/24 at 7:06 pm to dchog
quote:a lot of what he did to get fired from Florida (awful recruiting, mailing it in for games at a time after losing a big game, nepotism and no accountability for assistant coaches) he had been doing at State too, people blamed it on State being State but the truth is it was Mullen who held State back from taking the next step.
He was fine at state but still couldn't get the players needed to get State over the hump. Florida thought just being Florida that the name would recruit itself no matter what coach they hired. They were wrong with Mullen.
Posted on 7/24/24 at 7:23 pm to theCAW
It is a lot harder to win at State considering the decades of terrible football history and the negative stigma attached with recruiting.
State needed a future HOF coach to get them to the next level and Florida got a average coach that gave them average results.
State needed a future HOF coach to get them to the next level and Florida got a average coach that gave them average results.
Posted on 7/24/24 at 7:24 pm to TN Tygah
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He sucked arse at USC
He took over in 2010 just as sanctions (2 yr bowl ban) and scholarship reductions (3 years) were taking place. He coached for 3.5 seasons with a 10-2 season in the mix. He was 3-2 when fired in 2013 down 30 scholarship players.
It could have been worse. He was a good coach, but had a lot of maturing to do. Some may argue he still does, but he's still a good coach and seems to be getting better.
Posted on 7/24/24 at 8:04 pm to GreatPumpkin
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Firing Fulmer the Greatest Pumpkin of them all screwed us for over a decade
No, not firing him earlier screwed us.
Mike Hamilton passing hiring Gary Patterson and hiring Lane Kiffin is what really screwed UT.
Brian Kelly, who wanted the job, would have been better than Kiffin.
Posted on 7/24/24 at 8:05 pm to Loganville Vols
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Philip Fulmer Tennessee. Should have Camp Phil for another year or so until they found a better coach to take over. Then , Derek Dooley.
See comment above this one.
Posted on 7/24/24 at 11:07 pm to 49 to nada
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Mack Brown at Texas caused a decade long wandering in the wilderness of mediocrity, but it was necessary. Tbh it should have happened a few years earlier...as in right after losing the CCG to Bama and not stepping down for the head coach in waiting, Will Muschamp. Of course we know Muschamp didn't exactly light the world on fire as HC at other programs, but who knows how he would have done at Texas?
While I think firing MB was ultimately the catalyst for the lost decade, dumb hiring decisions (Charlie Strong, Mensa Tom) played a much bigger role. I really hope all that is behind us now, at least Sark is trending in the right direction with steady improvement over his 3 seasons.
He is a Georgia grad and will do the same to make sure Georgia is on top. Just look around what he did to all those other programs. He burned it down each one of them.
Posted on 7/25/24 at 6:19 am to AlterDWI
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Good one. Southern Miss was the one G5 school you always felt nervous about playing.

The only one huh?
Hmmmmmmmm
Posted on 7/25/24 at 6:26 am to Tigerroar73
Frank Solich has to be the worst firing in sports history. Dude was 58-19 but that wasn’t good enough for the Cornhuskers. Bet they wish they had that level of success still 

Posted on 7/25/24 at 6:45 am to theCAW
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6-8 wins a year is dangerous?
Give the guy his due. Florida won 4 games the previous year before he took over. Going 10-3 and 11-2 the next 2 years was not chopped liver. In 2020, before the shoe-throwing game, and a close loss in the SECCG to BAMA, that team was good. That's 3 years of Florida with a playoff pulse by today's 12-team Playoff. In 2021 it was a down year, but frankly, that's what he did at Miss State. Then he would reload and have them playing hard again. The Hierarchy just didn't care for his antics and he was gone.
Posted on 7/25/24 at 8:53 am to theCAW
I agree with this statement in general but rich rod was never given a real chance at mich. he was met with opposition from the boosters and fans day 1.
Posted on 7/25/24 at 9:58 am to bamameister
quote:unfortunately there was no 12 team playoff then so it’s not relevant
That's 3 years of Florida with a playoff pulse by today's 12-team Playoff.
Posted on 7/25/24 at 10:10 am to bamameister
quote:they had a cupcake that got cancelled so they went 4-7 instead of 5-7
Florida won 4 games the previous year before he took over.
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Going 10-3 and 11-2 the next 2 years was not chopped liver
It was a lot of luck
Luck that fsu hired Taggart and Tennessee hired Pruitt
Luck that scar had Will Muschamp and mark Richt had to medically retire randomly so Miami hired manny Diaz as a last min replacement
Luck that Felipe franks got hurt vs Kentucky because with franks that was a 7-5/8-4 type team
Dan had success at Florida despite of himself
Posted on 7/25/24 at 10:24 am to Bigbens42
Different sport but Will Wade seems to be a pretty obvious answer at this point. For football, I agree with Gus and Mullen.
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