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re: CNN - Notable NCAA Scandals...Three SEC Teams...

Posted on 7/26/12 at 5:31 pm to
Posted by Alahunter
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Posted on 7/26/12 at 5:31 pm to
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Meanwhile, another former Tiger player, fullback Vincent Harris, told SI, "Auburn is corrupt to the core. Everything Eric Ramsey says is true." Harris, who lettered from 1986 to '88, leveled the following charges:

On "three or four occasions" he asked assistant coach Bud Casey for $50 to $60, and Casey obliged. Says Harris, "I was just testing them to see how much I could get." Casey says, "I can't comment."

When Harris received more than $400 in parking tickets in 1986, he went to Dye and said, "I'm not paying these. They're not my problem." He says Dye told him, "Go see Coach Hall." Harris claims that he then went to see defensive coordinator Wayne Hall and that Hall "was kind of mad at me for getting all those tickets, but he gave me the money." Asked about this, Hall says, "We have been instructed to say, 'No comment.' " Dye says, "My lawyer has put a gag in my mouth."


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Harris has a list of 30 Auburn players who, he contends, were receiving improper benefits—as much as $12,000 a year plus a car. He refused to provide all the names, but said that two former teammates, Stacy Danley, who was recently cut by the Seattle Seahawks, and James Joseph of the Philadelphia Eagles, were paid. When confronted with these allegations, Joseph said, "No comment,"


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With his accusations, Harris, who quit the Tiger team in 1988, clearly turns up the heat on Auburn. "The point is, if you were a good ****, you got lots of stuff at Auburn," says Harris, who is black. "If you weren't, you didn't."


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Posted by Stanky Legg
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 7/26/12 at 5:33 pm to
Pat's a good guy.

If anything, he's a poor judge of character. Probably because he's always drunk.

Did he break the rules? Yes. Did he run some elaborate "pay for play" scheme? No. Did they ever tender proof that he incentivized players to attend AU? No.
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 7/26/12 at 5:39 pm to
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Pat's a good guy.


Do good guys go on national TV calling his former players liars, when they're telling the truth?

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Did he run some elaborate "pay for play" scheme? No


Debatable, as 3 of his coaches directly were caught on tape discussing payments and benefits, and he was on tape being told about how his coaches were helping take care of things.

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Did they ever tender proof that he incentivized players to attend AU? No.


If it sounds like a duck and walks like a duck....
Posted by Hump
Member since Aug 2011
715 posts
Posted on 7/26/12 at 5:43 pm to
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Auburn football has been clean


Posted by bamascott2
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Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 7/26/12 at 6:17 pm to
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Been mad at Bama long before 21-0. They have and always will be one of the dirtiest programs around. That culture is as close to PSU as can be ,you know it but will never admit it.


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TigerFanNKaty

I bet you bought a shitload of those T-shirts, didn't you!

Posted by bamascott2
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Posted on 7/26/12 at 6:28 pm to
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Sure, LSU hasn't achieved what UA, USC, OU and a couple of others of old has but it's a good possibility the club may win the conference for 5th time this century

This century.

Posted by JOHNN
Prairieville
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 7/26/12 at 9:40 pm to
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Weird how CNN would include 3 SEC teams, but leave off the SEC's all-time leader in major violations, years on probation, years banned from bowls, games banned from TV, and of course the employer of one Cam Newton for a semester.


While AU does lead with 11 seasons of being on probation, AL is knocking on the door with 10 seasons. The funny thing is that AU hasnt been on probation since 1995. AL first went on probation in 1995 has been on probation for 10 seasons up till this year.

If theres anything to learn from that little bit of information its this:
If AU is as dirty as you bammers claim then it seems like Bama should take some lessons from them in how they are getting away with everything.

AU- probation free since 1996 season
AL- on probation for a total of 10 seasons since 1995 to now.

Facts are facts.
Posted by AUTiger83
ATL
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 7/26/12 at 10:01 pm to
This is a fricking stupid thread.
Posted by RT58
Alabama
Member since Oct 2007
4247 posts
Posted on 7/26/12 at 10:46 pm to
Isn't it Ironic. Thread started by our biggest Rival,doesn't include ALL the statistics? Maybe I missed it,but isn't Auburn the MOST penalized team in the SEC? If you're gonna count probations,name all of the frickers,not just the time frame that suits you like,past 20 years.
10 dirtiest programs
Posted by RT58
Alabama
Member since Oct 2007
4247 posts
Posted on 7/26/12 at 10:48 pm to
Notice this is only the ones they were actually CAUGHT at. If you're gonna sling it,bring it,all of it. This is old news I KNOW you have all read
This post was edited on 7/26/12 at 10:49 pm
Posted by FourThinInches
Member since Apr 2012
1351 posts
Posted on 7/26/12 at 11:30 pm to
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Isn't it Ironic. Thread started by our biggest Rival,doesn't include ALL the statistics? Maybe I missed it,but isn't Auburn the MOST penalized team in the SEC? If you're gonna count probations,name all of the frickers,not just the time frame that suits you like,past 20 years.
10 dirtiest programs


Damn, never knew A&M was so dirty too. Same amount of infractions as Auburn.
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
Dystopia (but well cared for)
Member since Mar 2012
25235 posts
Posted on 7/26/12 at 11:45 pm to
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Sure, LSU hasn't achieved what UA, USC, OU and a couple of others of old has but it's a good possibility the club may win the conference for 5th time this century


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This century.



Umm, as opposed to once?
Posted by Merck
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Member since Nov 2009
1693 posts
Posted on 7/27/12 at 2:02 am to
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This century.
Umm, as opposed to once?


We're 12 years into the 21st century and you want to start claiming "all century" totals?

Why didn't you just say in the last 12 years, or since the year 2000? At least then you wouldn't come off as desperate to claim a moral victory.
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Member since Mar 2012
25235 posts
Posted on 7/27/12 at 2:05 am to
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Why didn't you just say in the last 12 years, or since the year 2000? At least then you wouldn't come off as desperate to claim a moral victory.

I could say 21st century, would this be better?
Posted by Merck
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1693 posts
Posted on 7/27/12 at 2:12 am to
No, you still look desperate.
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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25235 posts
Posted on 7/27/12 at 2:13 am to
Okay then.
Posted by Merck
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Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 7/27/12 at 2:40 am to
At least you didn't say something like "Two out of three ain't bad."
Posted by GCTiger11
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Jan 2012
45779 posts
Posted on 7/27/12 at 3:12 am to
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Why didn't you just say in the last 12 years, or since the year 2000?


That's the same thing as saying "this century" wise guy. How is he claiming a moral victory by saying "this century"? The same would apply had he said any of the 2 things you suggested.
Posted by Merck
Tuscaloosa
Member since Nov 2009
1693 posts
Posted on 7/27/12 at 4:38 am to
Because that's just attaching a grand label to an otherwise arbitrary time period. Twelve years isn't a decade, it isn't a century. It's just twelve years. Nobody measures years in groups of 12 but the Chinese, and dammit man, they're communists.

Why not say "The most BCSCG appearances by any SEC team ever?" It sounds just as grand without implying a 100 year time span.
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
Dystopia (but well cared for)
Member since Mar 2012
25235 posts
Posted on 7/27/12 at 5:38 am to
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Isn't it Ironic. Thread started by our biggest Rival,doesn't include ALL the statistics? Maybe I missed it,but isn't Auburn the MOST penalized team in the SEC? If you're gonna count probations,name all of the frickers,not just the time frame that suits you like,past 20 years.
10 dirtiest programs

If everything came out the Canes would be on that list, probably at #1. A PFP scam from its inception, with little or no abatement even at present.
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