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re: Chizik's Turnaround = Amazing
Posted on 12/10/10 at 10:37 pm to CoonassBulldog
Posted on 12/10/10 at 10:37 pm to CoonassBulldog
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Seriously? I bet I can find quite a few NFL players off that team that lost to La-Monroe- starting with the QB
leron mcclain? andre smith? who else?
This post was edited on 12/10/10 at 10:38 pm
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Posted on 12/10/10 at 10:38 pm to toomersdrugs
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come on now. he did bring them here. he is obviously smart enough to surround himself with a good staff. i think if gus leaves, he will replace him with the best in the biz.
Probably a bit of hyperbole on my part, but I'm not sold on Chiz. Gus, yes. Chiz, not so much.
Posted on 12/10/10 at 10:38 pm to Evolved Simian
Chizik sucks, he is just surrounded with talent right now.
Posted on 12/10/10 at 10:39 pm to Evolved Simian
quote:Didn't Chiz do as much or more as a coordinator as Gus has?
Gus, yes. Chiz, not so much.
Posted on 12/10/10 at 10:39 pm to BamaScoop
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Chizik sucks, he is just surrounded with talent right now.
Who assembled the talent?
Posted on 12/10/10 at 10:39 pm to m2pro
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do YOU think Meyer is a better coach than Saban, or are you just playing devils advocate
How can you say he isnt? Meyer's record is incredible. He just burned out.
There's nothing you can show me that says Saban is a better coach- Meyer's numbers are better...hell, Saban only won 6 games at Mich State 3 of the 5 years he coached there
Posted on 12/10/10 at 10:39 pm to Evolved Simian
chizik doesn't have to understand on the field winning himself... as long as he understands how to hire the right guys that can.
there are multiple types of HC's that have winning formulas and THEY are responsible for the winning. but, i'd always rather have a control freak that understands winning on EVERY level.
there are multiple types of HC's that have winning formulas and THEY are responsible for the winning. but, i'd always rather have a control freak that understands winning on EVERY level.
Posted on 12/10/10 at 10:40 pm to m2pro
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leron mcclain? andre smith? who else?
John Parker Wilson is a Falcon...I'd have to look it up- give me a few mins
Posted on 12/10/10 at 10:40 pm to Stanky Legg
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Who assembled the talent?
It's looking like Jay Jacobs, Bobby Lowder, Milton McGregor and Pat Dye.
Posted on 12/10/10 at 10:40 pm to CoonassBulldog
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CoonassBulldog
no offense, but i'm too tired to argue something that's very clear to folks that understand why Saban is infact a better coach that Meyer. it doesn't matter to me one way or another if you see it or not.
Posted on 12/10/10 at 10:40 pm to AlaTiger
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He didn't go 12-2 in his second year off of freshmen.
Not exactly true. UA played more true freshmen than any other team in cfb that season except for FSU.
Posted on 12/10/10 at 10:41 pm to CoonassBulldog
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John Parker Wilson is a Falcon..
from what i understand, he's just doing a lot of wearing their uniform and keeping the bench warm.
Posted on 12/10/10 at 10:42 pm to Evolved Simian
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but I'm not sold on Chiz.
i dont think many auburn fans are. i understand a lot of it has come from chizik, but thats what makes a good head coach. if you can bring in the best to be around you, you dont have to be the best yourself. he knew what he had to do to win, and did it, but yes i agree, the verdict is still out on chizik. he has done terrific so far, but id like to judge him in a couple years.
Posted on 12/10/10 at 10:43 pm to BamaScoop
It takes a man to give credit where credit is due.
You, apparently, haven't hit that point yet.
Posted on 12/10/10 at 10:44 pm to Stanky Legg
chizik will likely be exposed soon though stanky legg.. i mean, he may not have even assembled the crew.
This post was edited on 12/10/10 at 10:45 pm
Posted on 12/10/10 at 10:48 pm to CoonassBulldog
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CoonassBulldog
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John Parker Wilson
JPW scored more points for opponents than the margin of victory in six games, I believe (pick six or fumbles) during his last two seasons. That's six losses directly attributable to a single person.
I don't hate the guy, but I'd hardly consider him top talent, even if he is riding the pine in ATL right now.
Posted on 12/10/10 at 10:52 pm to m2pro
Exposed. Like 2nd half of this year's Iron Bowl exposed?
Posted on 12/10/10 at 10:53 pm to Aubie Spr96
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Exposed. Like 2nd half of this year's Iron Bowl exposed?
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No, exposed as in... losing multiple times next year.. AND looking lost. not losing by 1 point to a cheating team that's in the national championship... and should have still whipped y'all's asses :)
This post was edited on 12/10/10 at 10:54 pm
Posted on 12/10/10 at 10:56 pm to m2pro
Rashad Johnson- Arizona
Antoine Caldwell- Houston
Simeon Castille- Bengals and Chargers
Wallace Gillberry- KC
Robert Greenwood- KC
Andre Smith- Cincy
Rolando McClain
Kareem Jackson
Javier Arenas
Mike Johnson
Marquis Johnson
Brandon Deadrick
All those guys played in 2007- and lost to La-Monroe...Saban didnt inherit talent my arse
Meyer > Saban
Antoine Caldwell- Houston
Simeon Castille- Bengals and Chargers
Wallace Gillberry- KC
Robert Greenwood- KC
Andre Smith- Cincy
Rolando McClain
Kareem Jackson
Javier Arenas
Mike Johnson
Marquis Johnson
Brandon Deadrick
All those guys played in 2007- and lost to La-Monroe...Saban didnt inherit talent my arse
Meyer > Saban
Posted on 12/10/10 at 10:57 pm to m2pro
Saban impresses me as a program manager, not a coach. Chizik is in the same mold IMO.
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