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re: CFN Preview of the Gamecocks

Posted on 5/20/13 at 3:00 pm to
Posted by theGarnetWay
Washington, D.C.
Member since Mar 2010
25863 posts
Posted on 5/20/13 at 3:00 pm to
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Tajh Boyd is for real


Just because he beat up on LSU doesn't mean he is the real deal.

His numbers vs us.

2010 - At Clemson - Came in as a back up - 10/18 0 TD and 0 INT
2011 - At Columbia - Starter - 11/29 1 TD 1 INT
2012 - At Clemson - Starter - 11/23 1 TD 2 INTs

So combined Boyd is 31/70 (30% completion) against our D with 2 TDs and 3 INTs with 2 losses as a starter.
This post was edited on 5/20/13 at 3:01 pm
Posted by CNB
Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2007
95904 posts
Posted on 5/20/13 at 3:01 pm to
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You've got to admit though. Throughout history except for maybe the 1980's, it's been a matchup of .500 all time teams that are sub-par at best usually.


I didn't realize a preview was a good place to bring up a history lesson.

History keeps programs like Tennessee with hope. It's a grim reminder for us.
Posted by lsucjn
California
Member since Dec 2005
509 posts
Posted on 5/20/13 at 3:08 pm to
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So combined Boyd is 31/70 (30% completion)


Dude, I hope Math is not your major.
Posted by EvilVodka
Member since Dec 2012
810 posts
Posted on 5/20/13 at 3:13 pm to
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I will NEVER understand an SEC fan saying this.

It seemed like an awfully good system for the conference - and now we want to throw it away. Doesn't make any sense to me.


I don't know, ask Georgia '02, Auburn 2004, Florida '06, LSU '06, LSU '11, and Florida '12

Specifically in 2006, Florida nearly lost out due to rematch mongers...LSU was playing some damn good football at the end of '06 as well.

In 2004, Auburn was completely left out of the picture...

Last year, Florida is left out despite being in the same situation as Bama the year before.

I'll be glad to see the beauty-contest nature of the BCS go...its time to start playing everything on the field. The best example is Notre Dame last year, and the "fierce" D they had...

Here's Stewart Mandell's hype: LINK

quote:

Notre Dame will beat Alabama in Monday night's BCS National Championship Game, at which point everyone who predicted that the Tide would roll -- myself included -- will slap ourselves for our stupidity. Stories will proclaim the Irish "stunned" the vaunted Crimson Tide. Headlines will call it an "upset for the ages." And all of this will happen despite the fact that there were no shortage of warning signs hinting that the underdog was better than advertised and the favorite more flawed than perceived.

We know this because the same ritual happens every few years.

In 2002, plucky Ohio State had no shot against mighty Miami. It didn't matter that the Buckeyes were 13-0 and had rarely let opponents into the end zone, while the Hurricanes had allowed 45 points to Virginia Tech in their regular-season finale. We were still all shocked when the Buckeyes won a 31-24 double-overtime thriller.

In 2005, ESPN ran segments before the game debating whether USC was the greatest team of all time. This happened even though Texas was also undefeated and averaging more than 50 points per game, and even though the Trojans had allowed 42 points earlier in the season to Fresno State. Vince Young and the Longhorns won 41-38.

In 2006, there was more pregame discussion about whether 12-1 Florida belonged in the championship than whether it stood a chance against season-long No. 1 Ohio State. This occurred despite the Buckeyes' decidedly lighter regular-season slate and their defensively lacking 42-39 victory over Michigan to close out the year. The Gators won a 41-14 rout.

Read More: https://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/college-football/news/20130107/notre-dame-alabama-bcs-title-game/#ixzz2Trjd6gzz


Posted by theGarnetWay
Washington, D.C.
Member since Mar 2010
25863 posts
Posted on 5/20/13 at 3:16 pm to
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Dude, I hope Math is not your major.



Simple brain fart. Added his completions and attempts together as if they were all attempts.

Hence the 30% when I did 30/101.


and FWIW Boyd's actual 42% completion % against us is still horrid.
Posted by EvilVodka
Member since Dec 2012
810 posts
Posted on 5/20/13 at 3:24 pm to
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Just because he beat up on LSU doesn't mean he is the real deal.

His numbers vs us.


well, Clemson has gone 6-7 in 2010, 10-4 in 2011, 11-2 Last year...

He almost scored at will on FSU's D last year, and led a last minute drive against us...they've got long time OU D-Coordinator Brent Venerables coaching the D...if the defense can catch up with the offense even just a hair, they're going to be a very tough team...
Posted by CockRocket
Columbia, SC
Member since May 2012
6840 posts
Posted on 5/20/13 at 3:29 pm to
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You've got to admit though. Throughout history except for maybe the 1980's, it's been a matchup of .500 all time teams that are sub-par at best usually.
Sure, in the past this game hasn't meant much on the national scale. But that's the past. Last season during the last week of the regular season there was only 5 games of top 25 teams facing each other. Of those 5, there were only 2 games where both teams playing had double digit wins, UF (11-2) vs FSU (12-2) and USC (11-2) vs Clem (11-2).
Posted by CockRocket
Columbia, SC
Member since May 2012
6840 posts
Posted on 5/20/13 at 3:35 pm to
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LSU fan
quote:

Tajh Boyd is for real...and their D is getting even better.
No offense, but of course an LSU fan would say this. He did play very well in the Chick-fil-a Bowl though. But if that's the only time you've really seen him play then you're going to be really mislead. And of course the defense is going to get better, they really couldn't get much worse. But even still, they can't seem to develop talent up there and could really struggle on that side of the ball.
Posted by CockRocket
Columbia, SC
Member since May 2012
6840 posts
Posted on 5/20/13 at 3:36 pm to
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Sucks that we are going to have to ruin their national championship hopes.

Are you a Mississippi State fan?
Posted by CockRocket
Columbia, SC
Member since May 2012
6840 posts
Posted on 5/20/13 at 3:40 pm to
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Besides the USC game, clemson has at least a fair chance to lose to:
@ NCState
FSU
&
@ Syracuse
They also play Georgia. So while they have a tougher schedule than usual, its still nothing like a normal SEC schedule.
Posted by ConwayGamecock
South Carolina
Member since Jan 2012
9121 posts
Posted on 5/20/13 at 3:42 pm to
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Simple brain fart. Added his completions and attempts together as if they were all attempts.

Hence the 30% when I did 30/101.


and FWIW Boyd's actual 42% completion % against us is still horrid.




He went a combined 32-70 by your posted numbers which was 45.7%.....
Posted by CockInYourEar
Charlotte
Member since Sep 2012
22458 posts
Posted on 5/20/13 at 3:51 pm to
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they've got long time OU D-Coordinator Brent Venerables coaching the D


Coach V rode the cottails of what Stoops built at OU for years.

OU's Total Defense Rankings over the past several years

'12- 64th (Coach V wasn't there, but at clemspson)
'11- 55th (Coach V's last year)
'10- 53rd
'09- 8th (Best year under Coach V)
'08- 63rd
'07- 26th

Mike Stoops was there from 99-03 and 4 of his 5 defenses finished in the Top 7 for Total Defense. Stoops left to go be the HC at UAz

Of Coach V's last 5 defenses at OU, only 1 was in the Top 10, and the rest didn't even crack the Top 25. Venebables was just in the right program at the right time, rode Stoops cottails, but they weren't sad to see him leave.
Posted by MC Ride
Member since Nov 2012
144 posts
Posted on 5/20/13 at 4:00 pm to
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Tajh Boyd is for real


Funniest post I've ever read on the Rant.

Face it, if LSU runs the ball at the end of the Chick-fil-a bowl to run out the clock instead of three straight passes, you wouldn't be saying that.

Plus does anyone here believe that LSU was 100% motivated for that game? LSU is used to playing in National Championships and BCS bowls, I seriously doubt that they were playing to the best of their abilities in a meaningless bowl game.

Steve Spurrier has patented the strategy to beat Clemson's hurry-up, pedal to the metal offensive scheme: keep them off the field. SC runs the ball against Clemson's weak defense. Then, SC uses every last second of the play clock, nearly every down.

After long, half-quarter drives, Clemson's offense is unable to maintain any semblance of a rhythm. It also helps when all Tajh can think about is getting plowed into the ground by #7.

Steve Spurrier is in Clemson's head. Clemson will not beat SC any time soon.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 5/20/13 at 4:46 pm to
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Steve Spurrier has patented the strategy to beat Clemson's hurry-up, pedal to the metal offensive scheme: keep them off the field. SC runs the ball against Clemson's weak defense. Then, SC uses every last second of the play clock, nearly every down.

Uh, yeah, that's exactly how LSU beat Oregon in 2011.

The problem last year was having to start TWO freshmen at CB. It was too hard to hide that weakness all season long. Some QBs were able to exploit it - some were not.
Posted by CockRocket
Columbia, SC
Member since May 2012
6840 posts
Posted on 5/20/13 at 4:49 pm to
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It was too hard to hide that weakness all season long. Some QBs were able to exploit it
And it just had to be Tahj.
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