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re: Can anyone see Sports Media Money is Killing College Football?
Posted on 1/3/13 at 12:18 pm to Master of Sinanju
Posted on 1/3/13 at 12:18 pm to Master of Sinanju
Cotton Bowl will be packed, has been officially sold out for a while...I'm curious to see how bad Aggies outnumber Sooners, I think its going to be by quit a bit
Posted on 1/3/13 at 12:19 pm to Bellabama
Article in USAToday about bowl salaries
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It's a payday market that's gotten especially hot the past 10 years. A bowl boss' average compensation last year was $438,000, more than double since 2002 and 32% more than 2006, according to tax forms for 15 of the oldest nonprofit bowl organizations. Even second-tier games such as the Gator Bowl and Kraft Fight Hunger Bowl pay their executives at least $375,000. The bowls say their salaries are set according to the job and the market. But critics and others have continued to raise concerns about such pay being excessive for a number of reasons, including where the bowls get their revenue and how their salaries are determined. Most bowl games are tax-exempt charitable organizations that in most cases stage one game per year. They're also heavily subsidized by participating teams and conferences that combined to pay the bowl games $20.9 million last season for unsold tickets, according to documents obtained by USA TODAY Sports.
Posted on 1/3/13 at 12:29 pm to TenTex
Quote from above: "Can anyone see Sports Media Money is Killing College Football? The amount of money these bowl execs get is mind boggling...and they literally do nothing except grease other palms. Its sad because we all still watch and fans still go, but there will be a 'tipping point' eventually. Its a shame what the big bowl games have become."
I think we've reached the tipping point. Wednesday's Sugar Bowl was the smallest crowd in 74 years. It's becoming less and less logical for the bowls to fight a 32 or 16 team playoff. There would be so much more interest in a tournament than there is in these meaningless exhibition games. It would be March Madness in December and January. And the top bowls could hold the quarter and semifinals. Think they might have sold out a Florida-Louisville quarterfinal game? I sure do.
The Sugar Bowl's announced crowd of 54,178 for Florida-Louisville was the game's worst since 1939 and the smallest ever for a BCS bowl. Overall bowl ticket sales are down 5% from last year.
I think we've reached the tipping point. Wednesday's Sugar Bowl was the smallest crowd in 74 years. It's becoming less and less logical for the bowls to fight a 32 or 16 team playoff. There would be so much more interest in a tournament than there is in these meaningless exhibition games. It would be March Madness in December and January. And the top bowls could hold the quarter and semifinals. Think they might have sold out a Florida-Louisville quarterfinal game? I sure do.
The Sugar Bowl's announced crowd of 54,178 for Florida-Louisville was the game's worst since 1939 and the smallest ever for a BCS bowl. Overall bowl ticket sales are down 5% from last year.
Posted on 1/3/13 at 12:31 pm to Bellabama
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It's a payday market that's gotten especially hot the past 10 years. A bowl boss' average compensation last year was $438,000, more than double since 2002 and 32% more than 2006, according to tax forms for 15 of the oldest nonprofit bowl organizations. Even second-tier games such as the Gator Bowl and Kraft Fight Hunger Bowl pay their executives at least $375,000.
Exactly. And for what? Its not like these people are running actual corporations that produce and sell things. These people have to throw one football game a year. ONE.
Posted on 1/3/13 at 12:34 pm to Scoreboard
One of the biggest surprises was why Clemson did not show up just a few hours a way from the game. Anyone know why???
Posted on 1/3/13 at 12:38 pm to TenTex
quote:Because they thought LSU was going to show up. Fooled 'em.
One of the biggest surprises was why Clemson did not show up just a few hours a way from the game. Anyone know why???
Posted on 1/3/13 at 12:46 pm to TxTiger82
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Exactly. And for what? Its not like these people are running actual corporations that produce and sell things. These people have to throw one football game a year. ONE.
I think I read somewhere that the Kraft Fight Hunger bowl president (or one of the bowls like it) logged 10 days at work for his paycheck.
Posted on 1/3/13 at 12:49 pm to TenTex
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One of the biggest surprises was why Clemson did not show up just a few hours a way from the game. Anyone know why???
Huh? Thought the game was a reported sell-out? It looked packed to me, and pretty close to 50-50 if not 55-45 Clemson in my section.
Posted on 1/3/13 at 12:49 pm to Bellabama
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It's a payday market that's gotten especially hot the past 10 years. A bowl boss' average compensation last year was $438,000, more than double since 2002 and 32% more than 2006, according to tax forms for 15 of the oldest nonprofit bowl organizations. Even second-tier games such as the Gator Bowl and Kraft Fight Hunger Bowl pay their executives at least $375,000.

WTF DOES A BOWL EXEC EVEN DO?!?!?!
Posted on 1/3/13 at 12:54 pm to TenTex
Agree with everything except the part about conference winners. The SEC teams would be the most likely to be screwed by that. Take the top four teams, or eight, whatever the format eventually becomes.
Posted on 1/3/13 at 12:55 pm to TenTex
In the end the attendance is just gravy. The money is in the TV contracts and the corporate sponsorships. Just be thankful to be a "have" and not a "have not" in the SEC. Most folks get to fly across the country for a bowl game whereas SEC teams can almost always drive just a few hours.
TV dominates the schedule so it is about ESPN being willing to pay to spread out the games for optimum viewership and ad dollars. Corporate sponsors don't care about the attendance, they just want their name mentioned over and over in regards to the bowl game as a great advertising investment. I had never heard of Beef O'Brady's before they had a bowl for instance but found myself Googling the company and wondering if they would open one in Texas. THAT is what is about.
As for the schools, its a win/win. The team gets more practice time and a reward for the AD/team as well as something to solicit donors about. They also get lots of national pub, esp the smaller schools that don't get on TV as much as SEC schools.
Complain if you wish but in the end those beautiful facilities and big time recruits are coming for stuff like this. It's about the money and the publicity, so be thankful to be in the SEC which has the most of both.
TV dominates the schedule so it is about ESPN being willing to pay to spread out the games for optimum viewership and ad dollars. Corporate sponsors don't care about the attendance, they just want their name mentioned over and over in regards to the bowl game as a great advertising investment. I had never heard of Beef O'Brady's before they had a bowl for instance but found myself Googling the company and wondering if they would open one in Texas. THAT is what is about.
As for the schools, its a win/win. The team gets more practice time and a reward for the AD/team as well as something to solicit donors about. They also get lots of national pub, esp the smaller schools that don't get on TV as much as SEC schools.
Complain if you wish but in the end those beautiful facilities and big time recruits are coming for stuff like this. It's about the money and the publicity, so be thankful to be in the SEC which has the most of both.
Posted on 1/3/13 at 12:56 pm to TenTex
I didn't even read to know exactly what you are talking about.
College football is very broken
College football is very broken
Posted on 1/3/13 at 12:58 pm to TenTex
It's pathetic how they've ruined it. There should never be that few people at the Sugar Bowl.
This post was edited on 1/3/13 at 12:59 pm
Posted on 1/3/13 at 1:07 pm to FootballNostradamus
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Huh? Thought the game was a reported sell-out? It looked packed to me, and pretty close to 50-50 if not 55-45 Clemson in my section.

The game was a "reported sellout" because of the amount of tickets both schools purchased along with corporate tickets. That was the LEAST amount of LSU fans I've ever seen at a bowl game and I've been to every one for the last 7 years.
Posted on 1/3/13 at 1:15 pm to TenTex
It's a tough economy still too. Traveling to watch your team in the WTF.com Bowl isn't cheap. When the economy is good, it's a good 2-for-1 excuse for a vacation.
Posted on 1/3/13 at 1:19 pm to Adam4LSU
Look at it this way the school owns the team and rakes in all the money the only difference between cfb and the NFL is the school makes more money because they don't pay salaries
Posted on 1/3/13 at 1:24 pm to TriumphTiger
There are still plenty people that can afford the price, but can't take a 2 week Holiday + 1 week Bowl game Vacation from work..
Posted on 1/3/13 at 1:28 pm to TenTex
Rule 1 Do not play bowl games after Jan.1
Rule 2 Do not play bowl games on week nights that are not eves or holidays
Rule 3 Do not match up big time programs with wannabes
Rule 2 Do not play bowl games on week nights that are not eves or holidays
Rule 3 Do not match up big time programs with wannabes
Posted on 1/3/13 at 1:34 pm to ThaKaptin
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Redneck fans ruin it too
They dont ruin it, they are just annoying as frick.
Row Tahd.

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