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re: Can anyone make a rational argument that Auburn should stay in the west?
Posted on 6/1/17 at 12:52 pm to 14&Counting
Posted on 6/1/17 at 12:52 pm to 14&Counting
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They been in the West for 25 years now...
We've wanted to go to the east for a while now. We want our rivalries back.
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This boils down to separating further from Bama's shadow and continuing to forge their identity.
Nah, but that is very little brother of you.
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they need badly it as their AD has struggled and isn't flush with cash like Bama
LOL
Even with Bama's dominance in football, we've done fine. Two natty appearances this decade. We have plenty of cash from bowl appearances and attendance. How do you think 14 million dollar video boards are made? or the 28 million dollar improvements happening now? And we've managed that with a 25,000 student cap.
And that's just football. Our program was better overall this past year, and should be going forward. Baseball is in the tourney (even though we laid an egg against yalls' awful team) and is trending upwards.
We swept you in basketball and should be in the tournament this year.
We took the series against you in softball and were national runner ups last year.
As well as other sports, but keep thinking about us!
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Posted on 6/1/17 at 12:53 pm to I-59 Tiger
all a&m, all the time
Posted on 6/1/17 at 12:54 pm to Crowknowsbest
Why would UGA be against it? You already play us every year.
Posted on 6/1/17 at 12:56 pm to Rhino5
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OM, Arky, MSU, Mizzou, Tenn, Vandy have nothing to lose
Sure they do
OM: 9 games means harder to make a bowl
Arky: same
MSU: same
Mizzou: same, also lose what little history they may have developed with other SEC teams
Tenn: likely lose Bama game, harder division
Vandy: harder to make a bowl, harder division
Posted on 6/1/17 at 12:57 pm to AeroSpaceTiger
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Why would UGA be against it? You already play us every year.
9 games doesn't work for us without a guarantee of everyone else playing two power 5 OOC games, as has been stated multiple times in this thread.
Posted on 6/1/17 at 12:58 pm to Crowknowsbest
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Sure they do
I don't think many would oppose the 9 games but I do think they would oppose the 9 games plus two OOC power 5 games. I think that would be too much.
Posted on 6/1/17 at 12:58 pm to Rhino5
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9-game schedule w/AUand UT as permanents.
That isn't going to happen
Posted on 6/1/17 at 1:03 pm to rockiee
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I don't think many would oppose the 9 games
If I'm the AD at one of those schools, I'm not sure what I gain by voting yes.
Less home games and a more difficult road to a bowl? No thanks.
Posted on 6/1/17 at 1:03 pm to AeroSpaceTiger
A nine game schedule solves all of your whining (unless you are really just trying to get away from the teams that beat you more than you beat them).
AND it maintains the balance between the divisions.
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AND it maintains the balance between the divisions.
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Posted on 6/1/17 at 1:11 pm to Crowknowsbest
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If I'm the AD at one of those schools, I'm not sure what I gain by voting yes.
Less home games and a more difficult road to a bowl? No thanks.
It would probably be an extra home game every other year right? More ticket sales and revenues for the state town(hotels, food, bars,etc.). That still leaves 2 gimme games, and a 3rd possible win against your one OOC power 5 opponent. So you're half way to 6 games possibly. 50% remaining should be up to the coaches and players, no?
Posted on 6/1/17 at 1:15 pm to Rhino5
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It would probably be an extra home game every other year right?
Extra conference home game every other year. One less OOC home game every year. Net financial loss, I would think.
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50% remaining should be up to the coaches and players, no?
They don't have any say with the possible exception of Nick Saban.
This post was edited on 6/1/17 at 1:16 pm
Posted on 6/1/17 at 1:19 pm to Crowknowsbest
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If I'm the AD at one of those schools, I'm not sure what I gain by voting yes.
Less home games and a more difficult road to a bowl? No thanks.
Only less home games every other year. I think fans of those schools would be ok with it if they didn't enforce two OOC Power 5 games. If enough fans get behind it then it doesn't really matter what the AD thinks.
Posted on 6/1/17 at 1:22 pm to rockiee
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If enough fans get behind it then it doesn't really matter what the AD thinks.
Our AD has like a 2% approval rating and still has a job, so I'm not sure that's true.
Posted on 6/1/17 at 1:26 pm to Crowknowsbest
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Extra conference home game every other year. One less OOC home game every year. Net financial loss, I would think
Not necessarily, the neutral site games (cowboy and chick fil a kickoff type games) at the beginning of the year have payouts. Alabama received $3.5mil and $4 mil against West Virginia and Wisconsin a couple years ago. Not sure about USC but it compensates for the loss of a home game.
Posted on 6/1/17 at 1:29 pm to Rhino5
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Not necessarily, the neutral site games (cowboy and chick fil a kickoff type games) at the beginning of the year have payouts. Alabama received $3.5mil and $4 mil against West Virginia and Wisconsin a couple years ago. Not sure about USC but it compensates for the loss of a home game.
Those don't really factor into the comparison though. Those games can already happen. That's not a new revenue source to make up for the loss. Also, MSU, Vandy, etc. aren't going to get those kinds of payouts for neutral site games.
Kentucky, USCe, UF, and UGA wouldn't even be able to participate in those games at all with a 9-game schedule.
Posted on 6/1/17 at 2:53 pm to Crowknowsbest
The talk about 9 games seems dead to me mainly because I don't see Ole Miss, MSU, Mizzou, UK, USCe or Vandy ever voting for it. You only need 4 to block correct?
The talk about Auburn to the East will never happen for the same reason it hasn't happened. Bama doesn't want it.
It strikes me that JJ is posturing to find a way to get Auburn's Amen Corner switched back to home and away.
The talk about Auburn to the East will never happen for the same reason it hasn't happened. Bama doesn't want it.
It strikes me that JJ is posturing to find a way to get Auburn's Amen Corner switched back to home and away.
This post was edited on 6/1/17 at 2:54 pm
Posted on 6/1/17 at 3:20 pm to Rhino5
quote:Who will force the SEC to a 9 game schedule? Hell, Saban threw that scenario on the table and Alabama was the only program that voted in favor of a 9 game schedule. No one else in the conference wanted it then, why would they want it now?
I think with the new playoff format the SEC will soon be forced to adopt a 9-game conference schedule such as the PAC-12 and Big 10. I could see those leagues complaining.
Posted on 6/1/17 at 3:29 pm to AeroSpaceTiger
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You could get another sec team every year if we play a 9 game schedule. Like georgia
Say we do move to a 9 game schedule and Auburn moves to the East. Does Alabama keep both Tennessee and Auburn as permanent cross division teams, meaning they only have one rotating game, while everyone else has 2?
Or do you propose all schools have two permanents and we're still in the same position we are now with only one rotating game just so auburn can move to the East?
Posted on 6/1/17 at 3:29 pm to RT1941
He first proposed it in 2011 iirc. It is a good idea then and it still is now
Posted on 6/1/17 at 3:32 pm to lsufball19
Two permanent, one rotating. I know it doesn't fix everything. If we want to be able to play everybody very other year or so, we will probably have to abolish divisions all together and make a new scheduling system, like pods. I don't know if that will ever happen, but hey we can dream. The auburn to the east w/ 9game schedule fixes our situation and doesn't upset bama. It also gives each side another opponent from the other division permanently, while reducing the amount of teams in the rotation, thus reducing wait time to play those teams. It's certainly better than what we have now.
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