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Can anyone explain all these offensive guru HCs with great defenses and garbage offenses?
Posted on 10/7/19 at 10:46 pm
Posted on 10/7/19 at 10:46 pm
Feel this is a reoccurring trend lately. Coaches that were previously QB whispers and orchestrators of offenses that scored a point a minute come into the league and the result couldn’t be more different. Outside of maybe Hugh Freeze I’d say, most of the mega OCs that come into the SEC as HCs end up having great defenses if they recruit well but their offenses for some reason are just complete arse.
Why is that? Can you tell us Auburn? That Ted from Jingle All The Way some bitch y’all got at head coach is the poster child for what I’m talking about.
Why is that? Can you tell us Auburn? That Ted from Jingle All The Way some bitch y’all got at head coach is the poster child for what I’m talking about.
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Posted on 10/7/19 at 10:50 pm to FourThreeForty
Hugh Freeze can’t do anything without bought players. See his record at Liberty so far
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Posted on 10/7/19 at 10:51 pm to FourThreeForty
There are more defensive HC in the SEC
Defense
Saban
Smart
Proot
Odom
Muschamp
Stoops
Orgeron
Mason
Offense
Fisher
Gus
Mullen
Morris
Moorhead
Luke?
Defense
Saban
Smart
Proot
Odom
Muschamp
Stoops
Orgeron
Mason
Offense
Fisher
Gus
Mullen
Morris
Moorhead
Luke?
Posted on 10/8/19 at 6:02 am to FourThreeForty
I would ask the same thing about great DCs that became HCs. Mason and Pruitt’s teams can’t stop anyone defensively. Mason in particular. He could stop Oregon’s offense in its prime but his defenses have been an absolute disaster since he’s been here at Vandy.
Posted on 10/8/19 at 6:07 am to MaroonNation
You forgot the /s flag. At least I hope you did.
Posted on 10/8/19 at 6:54 am to JesusQuintana
Luke moved directly from O-line coach to interim HC.
Posted on 10/8/19 at 6:59 am to FourThreeForty
Gus was not that great of an OC without a transcendent talent at QB.
If you recall the 2009 season they beat the lesser teams then could not score against LSU. Played the Bama game close because of two big plays.
In 2011 his OL was so bad that it made his qb quit by week 6. Didn't score against LSU again.
If you recall the 2009 season they beat the lesser teams then could not score against LSU. Played the Bama game close because of two big plays.
In 2011 his OL was so bad that it made his qb quit by week 6. Didn't score against LSU again.
Posted on 10/8/19 at 7:08 am to TitaniusAnglesmith
Was Johnson the QB in 11?
Posted on 10/8/19 at 7:38 am to FourThreeForty
QBs like Baker, Murray, Tuna and others are great against mediocre competition. When they play good defenses they look just ok but when they play elite defenses they look like complete shite. I'm not surprised.
True, these guys will get their day in the NFL but most will not stay more than a few years. It seems right now that the promise of hyped up offenses sell season-tickets because of expectations but fail to win anything meaningful. Even for the NFL at this point, it's just a gimmick.
Mahomes has been able to succeed because he has everything in KC in his favor: good offensive coach (who's actually been in the league for a while), great receivers and play makers around him, solid OLine and a decent defense.
No one player can come to a team like the Browns and just light it up week to week. And no OC "guru" can show up and demand that it happen without ALL the ingredients. NFL has the top 1000 or so in all the game and any team can win against anyone.
True, these guys will get their day in the NFL but most will not stay more than a few years. It seems right now that the promise of hyped up offenses sell season-tickets because of expectations but fail to win anything meaningful. Even for the NFL at this point, it's just a gimmick.
Mahomes has been able to succeed because he has everything in KC in his favor: good offensive coach (who's actually been in the league for a while), great receivers and play makers around him, solid OLine and a decent defense.
No one player can come to a team like the Browns and just light it up week to week. And no OC "guru" can show up and demand that it happen without ALL the ingredients. NFL has the top 1000 or so in all the game and any team can win against anyone.
Posted on 10/8/19 at 7:40 am to FourThreeForty
I think it'e easier to have a good defense than offense in CFB. There are only so many guys that can sling the ball and score points.
Posted on 10/8/19 at 7:42 am to JesusQuintana
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There are more defensive HC in the SEC
Defense
Saban
Smart
Proot
Odom
Muschamp
Stoops
Orgeron
Mason
Offense
Fisher
Gus
Mullen
Morris
Moorhead
Luke?
If you watch Pruitt's teams you would be under the impression he has never had anything to do with any successful defense at all. We look totally lost all the time. Do you remember against GA state when we had that defensive lineman lined up behind the opposite side defensive end in a 3 point stance? It blows my mind he had so much success at FSU, UGA and bama.
Posted on 10/8/19 at 8:04 am to themicah85
For Gus it happened after the 2014 IB, when we had 630 yards of offense, scored 44 points and lost by 11. A game we felt we should have won easily..
Gus changed that day and not for the better. He started protecting the defense and the offensive results for 5 years have been terrible.
Gus changed that day and not for the better. He started protecting the defense and the offensive results for 5 years have been terrible.
Posted on 10/8/19 at 8:16 am to FourThreeForty
When the officials started enforcing linemen downfield and sat on the ball betweeen plays so Gus couldn't use his trickeration and hysterical “Go, go, go!” bullsheet, his gig was up.
This post was edited on 10/8/19 at 8:18 am
Posted on 10/8/19 at 8:20 am to KingOfTheWorld
All coaching is tied to talent. Derek Mason can’t recruit the same kids he had at Stanford and he’s coaching in a tougher league. I’m thinking and Vandy and Ole Miss May switch out our DC for your HC after this year.
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