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re: Cable killing the bowls...

Posted on 1/13/11 at 2:10 pm to
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90742 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 2:10 pm to
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IMHO, it is the BCSMNC that has killed the bowls because that game makes all the other game irrelevant.


The BCS lost double digits too because of cable.
Posted by oldfart782
Carrollton, GA
Member since Dec 2010
5 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 2:12 pm to
Although the coverage and announcing teams were much better with ESPN than FOX, I agree the big games should have been on ABC if they wanted to get higher ratings.
Posted by BuckeyeFan87
Columbus
Member since Dec 2007
25249 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 2:21 pm to
Per ESPN:


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ESPN earned an 8.4 overnight TV rating for its telecast of Ohio State's 31-26 win over Arkansas in Tuesday's Sugar Bowl.

That's down 3% from the overnight for Florida-Cincinnati in last year's game played on New Year's night. But it's also up 17% from Iowa-Georgia-Tech in last year's Orange Bowl, which was shown on the equivalent Tuesday night.

The game drew its largest overnight rating in the Columbus, Ohio, TV market (46.2). That's the highest rating for any TV market this bowl season, according to ESPN. More than 248,000 unique viewers watched on ESPN3.com.


For whatever that's worth.
This post was edited on 1/13/11 at 2:22 pm
Posted by CerealKilla
Member since Jan 2011
6098 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 2:30 pm to
PLAYOFFS.

Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34324 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 2:32 pm to
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The BCS lost double digits too because of cable.


I see what you're getting at now. This is interesting. I there is still a technological divide in this country.
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
70532 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 2:41 pm to
I must not understand this. I read where the National Championship was the most watched cable progam ever? Am I missing something?

LINK
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90742 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 2:42 pm to
It had an 11% drop from last years viewership. While it was cable's biggest draw, it and most all other bowls saw a decline due to the games being on cable, vs being on network.
This post was edited on 1/13/11 at 2:43 pm
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
70532 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 2:44 pm to
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It had an 11% drop from last years viewership. While it was cable's biggest draw, it and most all other bowls saw a decline due to the games being on cable, vs being on network.


Ok, Im with you now.

Posted by 4nmylifetime
668 Neighbor to the Beast
Member since Jun 2009
2844 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 2:50 pm to
I have cable but sympathize with those who dont. Cable TV is a luxury. It's one I'm willing to pay for but respect anyone who has made a decision to hold off on paying for cable TV because they have other priorities. I feel this way about cell phones which is why I dont have one of those. If you didnt have cable there was only one New Year's Day bowl you could have watched FL/Penn St. and that's F'ed Up. People should be able to watch public institutions that their taxes help sustain play football on public airwaves to a certain extent. There needs to be a medium mix of bowls on cable/broadcast. If you have the "f 'em" they should pay for cable attitude you should probably think about whether or not you have any credit card/car note/house mortgage/etc. bills and if your cable bill could save you some interest.

Yeah. I know, take it to the money talk board.
Posted by AUFANATL
Member since Dec 2007
5178 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 2:52 pm to
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the big games should have been on ABC if they wanted to get higher ratings.


They don't.

ABC owns ESPN. If ABC televised the game it would have gotten higher ratings, but what their subsidiary (ESPN) was airing - I'm assuming something along the lines of rodeo or h.s. cheerleading, which is what ESPN usually airs when there is a marquee sporting event on broadcast TV - would have gotten a zilch rating.

About 100 million people in this country care absolutely nothing about sports. When a big game is on, networks want to target this audience as well.

Think of it this way:

BCS game (ESPN) + Touched by and Angel (ABC) = 25 rating for the cumulative networks

BCS game (ABC) + Repeat of Bassmasters classic (ESPN) = 18 rating

Moving the game to ESPN was a smart corporate move

Posted by DvlsAdvocat
Your Mom's House, AL
Member since Jul 2007
24491 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 3:08 pm to
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Moving the game to ESPN was a smart corporate move


Exactly, and the networks don't give a damn about the people without cable, because they assume they don't have disposable income to make purchases from their advertisers...
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 3:33 pm to
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So how many people still just OTA only and have no access to ESPN? I live in the "city" and don't know of anybody who doesn't have cable or Dish or DirecTV and doesn't have at least basic ESPN on their plans.

Up until last year, I didn't have ESPN in my cable plan. The only reason I have it now is becasue they mistakenly connected me with Expanded basic after a tree fell on my line.

The problem I have is that ESPN is not in HD for me, while the broadcast networks are.

Even though I get ESPN nopw, I'd still MUCH rather watch the games in HD.
Posted by GamecockAlum
SC
Member since Dec 2010
7705 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 3:39 pm to
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Too many bowls


That's your opinion and a shitty one at that.

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I didnt watch Tulsa vs East Washington


Probably because Tulsa played Hawaii and Eastern Washington is a Division 1-AA team that won the FCS Championship.

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I only watched the big bowls.


Posted by Toddy
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2010
27251 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 3:40 pm to
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I must not understand this. I read where the National Championship was the most watched cable progam ever? Am I missing something?

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It was the most watched on cable, but viewership went down after switching from network.
Posted by GamecockAlum
SC
Member since Dec 2010
7705 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 3:43 pm to
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ABC owns ESPN.


Actually Disney owns both.

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If ABC televised the game it would have gotten higher ratings, but what their subsidiary (ESPN) was airing - I'm assuming something along the lines of rodeo or h.s. cheerleading, which is what ESPN usually airs when there is a marquee sporting event on broadcast TV - would have gotten a zilch rating.


College basketball is going on too btw. Hell even a lesser bowl on at the same time wouldn't have been AS bad.

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BCS game (ESPN) + Touched by and Angel (ABC) = 25 rating for the cumulative networks


1. Touched by an Angel hasn't been on air for years now.

2. While your premise was generally right, pretty much every show takes a one to 3 week break over Christmas/New Year's. What primetime tv show has it's run during the day time on New Year's Day? No show does.

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Moving the game to ESPN was a smart corporate move



Not according to the ratings it wasn't.
Posted by Tigerwaffe
Orlando
Member since Sep 2007
4975 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 4:15 pm to
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The Big Bowls should be on ABC. I see NO REASON to only air them on ESPN.


Posted by Collins10
Chicago, IL
Member since Apr 2007
1456 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 4:43 pm to
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