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re: Business $ Valuation of Football Programs

Posted on 10/14/11 at 2:12 pm to
Posted by MaroonNation
StarkVegas, Mississippi, Bitch!
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 10/14/11 at 2:12 pm to
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23. Mississippi $136 million


100 milli0n of that is nuttz buyout
Posted by TheFolker
Member since Aug 2011
5182 posts
Posted on 10/14/11 at 2:18 pm to
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refund?


Fo rizzle.
Posted by The ChizMan Cometh
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Member since Feb 2011
1671 posts
Posted on 10/14/11 at 2:31 pm to
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According to the discussion these numbers are two years old.


I don't think that matters much.. A lot of the criteria was stuff like stadium size, student body population, city size ect. I don't think these numbers come strictly from financial data though it probably is factored in somehow... So in a given 2 year span, how many schools have significantly increased their stadium size or seen major growth in the population or enrollment?
Posted by Govt Tide
Member since Nov 2009
9111 posts
Posted on 10/14/11 at 3:11 pm to
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don't think that matters much.. A lot of the criteria was stuff like stadium size, student body population, city size ect. I don't think these numbers come strictly from financial data though it probably is factored in somehow... So in a given 2 year span, how many schools have significantly increased their stadium size or seen major growth in the population or enrollment?



BDS went from seating 92,021 in 2009 to seating 101,821 in 2010 and Alabama's student enrollment went from 28,807 in Fall 2009 to 31,747 this Fall. I don't know if that would change these numbers but those are pretty significant increases especially with regards to seating capacity.

Posted by SunHog
Illinois
Member since Jan 2011
9202 posts
Posted on 10/14/11 at 4:05 pm to
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I don't think that matters much.. A lot of the criteria was stuff like stadium size, student body population, city size ect. I don't think these numbers come strictly from financial data though it probably is factored in somehow... So in a given 2 year span, how many schools have significantly increased their stadium size or seen major growth in the population or enrollment?



You are totally discounting stadium expansions; club seating and skyboxes, individual team networks, Merchandise sells which factor in to value, donations level increases, population level increases, student body increases, ticket price increases.. just a few to start with...

Looking at Arkansas Total Revenue there is over a $20M difference in a 2 year period. Obvious that is a indicator that isn't factored into this website.

Again, People are to lazy to collect the most current data because it is time consuming.
Posted by The ChizMan Cometh
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Posted on 10/14/11 at 4:22 pm to
I think you are missing exactly what this guys study is about. He looked at all FBS schools and tried to determine their value of their football program as if they were a business that was for sale. Stadium size was just one aspect of factors he used to come up with his numbers. Sure stadiums get updated and new sky boxes get added, but not every one of them every single year.

Until someone can find a link to his study and how he determined his numbers, I wouldn't get too upset. It's just an interesting study.
Posted by SunHog
Illinois
Member since Jan 2011
9202 posts
Posted on 10/14/11 at 4:31 pm to
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I think you are missing exactly what this guys study is about. He looked at all FBS schools and tried to determine their value of their football program as if they were a business that was for sale. Stadium size was just one aspect of factors he used to come up with his numbers. Sure stadiums get updated and new sky boxes get added, but not every one of them every single year.

Until someone can find a link to his study and how he determined his numbers, I wouldn't get too upset. It's just an interesting study.



No, I completely understand it and told you why it's not correct.

It's interesting and decently accurate for 2009 not 2011.
Posted by spiderpig
Fayetteville, NC
Member since Nov 2010
43 posts
Posted on 10/14/11 at 4:53 pm to
First variable that jumped out at me when I looked at that list is that the top 14 programs listed all have stadiums of 80K or greater capacity and pretty much sell them out. The exception to that is Wisconsin, which also has an 80K stadium but is below several programs with smaller stadiums. Ticket revenue is a differentiation that would not be affected by conference revenue sharing.

Another interesting detail is the huge difference between #17 Arkansas and #18 Okie State. Yeah, Okie State's stadium is significantly smaller (which again makes Wisconsin at #19 quite surprising), but that is an enormous gap between UA and OSU.

Also notice that no private schools, like USC, Notre Dame or Stanford, are listed. ND might well be #1 on this list if it were.
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