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re: Bruce Pearl 18-2

Posted on 1/26/18 at 9:24 am to
Posted by AU_251
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Member since Feb 2013
12110 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 9:24 am to
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He's in his 4th season. In college basketball that kinda is 'taking a long time'.


no it's not... not when you're coaching at a school whose roster was worse than empty and never had any semblance of a bball program, with a coach coming out of a show cause.


You're scared.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30868 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 9:28 am to
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He can motivate, not really coach.


What a load of horseshite! Like him or not (and I don't particularly), he's a helluva coach. Auburn is the most fundamentally sound team in the conference. With one of the smallest teams in the SEC, they continue to out rebound opponents. He uses their quickness to pressure the ball, create turnovers and keep the opponent from running their offense in the paint. He's also instilled a killer instinct in their team where, if they get you down, they'll put you away....something I haven't seen anywhere else in the conference.
He may be a slimeball, but the guy's a helluva coach...and it you can't see that...it's on you!
Posted by AA7
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2009
28420 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 9:29 am to
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Auburn is the most fundamentally sound team in the conference. With one of the smallest teams in the SEC, they continue to out rebound opponents

Nah man, just highly motivated.
Posted by TonyMontana
Member since Jul 2017
1169 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 9:41 am to
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This season is the most Auburn shite ever.. we have to have some type of intense scrutiny, or some stupid shady stuff going on, or be under some type of microscope for alleged misconduct.. in order to rally the troops and turn it into a highly successful and magical season. It's weird but that's what we do apparently. I could go back decades in numerous sports that prove the theory.


This would tell you a lot if you weren't biased. I'm not saying bias is a bad thing, we are all biased towards our teams.
Posted by WareagleKK
Milton, GA (ur welcome for Lawson)
Member since May 2012
2749 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 9:51 am to
So Pearl gets into trouble for hosting a BBQ and letting recruits attend and he's now a "loose cannon"?

I never understood why people have this horrible/dirty image of Bruce when literally all he did was what I wrote above.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
71492 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 10:01 am to
quote:

He's in his 4th season. In college basketball that kinda is 'taking a long time'.


no it's not.


Yes, it absolutely is. Basketball is a quick turnaround sport. 4 years is a long time absolutely. No idea why anyone would argue against that. This is the sport with 1 and dones for christ's sake
This post was edited on 1/26/18 at 10:03 am
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
71492 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 10:03 am to
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So Pearl gets into trouble for hosting a BBQ and letting recruits attend and he's now a "loose cannon"?



You left out the part where he won't cooperate with Auburn's own internal investigation. I wonder why?
Posted by AA7
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2009
28420 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 10:08 am to
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Basketball is a quick turnaround sport

It is if you are getting one and dones and have some type of depth. We were never going to attract that kind of talent when Bruce got here and had a roster that was non-existent. His first years he had to piece together a team every year with grad transfers and JUCO players while steadily getting HS kids to provide long term depth.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
44822 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 10:10 am to
Auburn was one of the worst power 5 programs. It is more like Saban going to Arkansas and turning them around.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
71492 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 10:17 am to
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It is if you are getting one and dones and have some type of depth. We were never going to attract that kind of talent when Bruce got here and had a roster that was non-existent. His first years he had to piece together a team every year with grad transfers and JUCO players while steadily getting HS kids to provide long term depth.



You dont have to get 1 and dones to turn around a program.

Look what Wade has done in just his first year here, we were 10-21, 2-16 last year and are 12-7, 3-4 right now after LOSING a player to the NBA on that 10-21 team

Next year we are looking to have a great team already.

At any rate, it's inane to argue 4 years isn't a good length of time for a turnaround in basketball. It's not like anybody is saying it's bad, just saying it took him time.

Look who he ended up doing it with too, it's not seniors and juniors, it's freshman and sophomores and a transfer, guys he recruited recently, not 3-4 years ago and developed.
This post was edited on 1/26/18 at 10:18 am
Posted by BoCam2
Alabama
Member since Apr 2012
5094 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 10:24 am to
Might have something to do with the FBI going after Chuck Person. Good chance that Pearl was told to stfu until after the FBI is done
Posted by blzr
Saratoga
Member since Mar 2011
30744 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 10:26 am to
quote:

He's in his 4th season. In college basketball that kinda is 'taking a long time'.



lsu won't be near as good in 4 years
Posted by AA7
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2009
28420 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 10:26 am to
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Look what Wade has done in just his first year here, we were 10-21, 2-16 last year and are 12-7, 3-4 right now after LOSING a player to the NBA on that 10-21 team

Because while Jones was a terrible coach, he was still a very good recruiter. It's not like Wade inherited the bad new bears.
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it's not seniors and juniors

Except for our best player
Posted by PearlJam
NotBeardEaves
Member since Aug 2014
13908 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 10:31 am to
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At any rate, it's inane to argue 4 years isn't a good length of time for a turnaround in basketball. It's not like anybody is saying it's bad, just saying it took him time.
I agree. However, when you look what he was working with and against, you can make the argument he has done it quickly, because doing it at all with everything he has to face at AU is pretty remarkable. It's just a matter of perspective.
Posted by marshallcotiger
Member since Dec 2009
8304 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 10:33 am to
Well his 1st year he was hired in April and it was too late to put together any type of class so he played with transfers and Barbee leftovers. His 2nd year we would have made the NIT but we lost both pg's and had to play our 6'5 pf at pg the majority of the conference schedule. Last year we were very competitive and on pace to play in the NIT until Spencer was hurt and we lost 6 of our last 8 games. Lack of depth and key injuries have hidden the progress but we have improved every year and now you are seeing the results even without 2 of our best 3 players seeing the court.
Posted by biggsc
Member since Mar 2009
34633 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 10:36 am to
He is a dirty coach.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
71492 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 10:37 am to
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Because while Jones was a terrible coach, he was still a very good recruiter. It's not like Wade inherited the bad new bears.



I wouldn't exactly call what he left for Wade a talented roster. Keep in mind Wade added Waters late, who is the best player on the team this year as a freshman. Sampson is the only 4-star on the roster that was left to Wade and he injured himself early this season. No 5-stars. What Wade has done with basically a 10-21 team that lost it's best player to the NBA is pretty damn good.

quote:

Except for our best player


Bryce Brown isn't your best player, he simply is the highest scorer. His PER is 18 which is actually relatively far down the list of your players.

McLemore, Heron, Okeke, Harper, Spencer and Heron all have higher PERs.

Also, let's not pretend like again, you're some vastly experienced highly developed team. 6 of your Top 7 players in minutes played per game are a freshman, sophomore or 1st year transfer.
This post was edited on 1/26/18 at 10:40 am
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
71492 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 10:38 am to
quote:

lsu won't be near as good in 4 years



We'll be very good NEXT season
Posted by blzr
Saratoga
Member since Mar 2011
30744 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 10:38 am to
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We'll be very good NEXT season




Posted by PearlJam
NotBeardEaves
Member since Aug 2014
13908 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 10:40 am to
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Bryce Brown isn't your best player, he simply is the highest scorer. His PER is 18 which is actually relatively far down the list of your players.

McLemore, Spencer, Okeke, Harper, Spencer and Heron all have higher PERs.
Going by PER exclusively is dumb and shows you haven't actually been watching this team play. We are pretty balanced, but Brown has been our most consistent best player.
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