re: Brian Kelly can’t say that he loves beating Georgia.

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Are you waiting for the Florida fans to join in and talk about how Spurrier owned us while he was the HBC with the Gators? That's about as relevant as what EO did 4 and 5 seasons ago.

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So you're going to pretend that Georgia wasn't irrelevant for 40 years and that LSU didn't win 3 national championships in that time?

Because if you think Georgia is that far ahead of LSU as a program, you're a fricking idiot.

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Now if we revisit this in 5 years and he hasn't won a "meaningful game", then you'll have a point.

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Okay. But we have 16 years leading up to now where he hasn't won a meaningful game (defined as conference championship, NY6/BCS bowl or playoff game).

It's not like we don't have a track record for Kelly. Where the disconnect lies is that others feel that prior track record has some meaning for how good a coach Kelly is, while LSU fans don't think anything he did prior to coming to LSU should factor in how he's judged.

Kelly's teams were higher ranked in many of those games he lost. It's not like they were all the equivalent of UGA/LSU this past year.

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Now if we revisit this in 5 years and he hasn't won a "meaningful game", then you'll have a point.

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Define a meaningful game

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Because if you think Georgia is that far ahead of LSU as a program, you're a fricking idiot.

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Look, to answer that you have to define what "as a program" means.

I think UGA is well ahead of LSU as a program right now. And by "as a program" I mean, "a prediction of what will happen for the next decade".

UGA has a young (by coaching standards) proven head coach who has an excellent track record as a recruiter and developer of talent. He's done well managing assistants (firing bad selection quickly in the case of James Coley and hiring replacement coordinators successfully to date).

UGA is set up for extended, continued success. They won't win the title every year, but they'll be in the mix every season and their success to date isn't based on a fluke player or too (like a Cam Newton at Auburn).

LSU is not in the same realm. Their coach is solid, but has not won championship games or big bowl games in his career. He's a solid but not spectacular recruiter. And there is a LOT of building that still needs to happen to get LSU up to a level where they are in championship contention. He's also 14 years older than UGA's coach.

That means there's a lot of space between the programs right now.

Does LSU have a ton of potential? Sure. But potential doesn't make a program. UGA got taken from potential to actually being a great program in Smart's first 5 years. While he had never done it before that, he also didn't have a track record of NOT doing it. LSU still has to do that development and he has failed at doing so in the past.

In terms of future outlook, UGA's program is ahead of every other school right now. LSU is behind quite a few others besides UGA.

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ND is much more elite than LSU, Brian Kelly is not an elite coach. Those are the facts that you hate so much.

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Well you also guaranteed Georgia would win a title in 2018 so we have to consider the source.

I guaranteed that Georgia would win in 2022. And I was right.

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Look I have no idea what I posted on here 5 years ago. But if you really went back and looked at my posts from 5 years ago, holy shite. Your life is even more pathetic than your tens of thousands of posts on here would suggest.

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Don't move the goalposts now, it's on the first page of the threads you started.

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Meh, I don't think any LSU fans expected him to beat Georgia in the first year of a rebuild with a shorthanded roster.

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They did prior to the ATM game, lol

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No, LSU fans just reject the notion that his past determines his future.

And that could go either way. He brought Notre Dame back to relevance, and for all we know, he just had his best season as LSU's head coach.

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Ya'll are wasting your energy trying to reason with these clowns.

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Ya'll are wasting your energy trying to reason with these clowns.

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It just blows my mind how quickly these clowns forget that Georgia was just another team 3 years ago.

Now they think they're entitled to a playoff spot every year.