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re: Breaking: Brandon Miller brought gun used in killing following text from Miles…

Posted on 2/21/23 at 3:23 pm to
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
83326 posts
Posted on 2/21/23 at 3:23 pm to
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He isn't. He would have been charged if he was involved.



I'm not presently trying to use this to trash or troll Bama (I will, probably soon, but not yet)

But I don't think this is a good take objectively. And I don't think you think it is, either.

He brought a murderer the murderer's gun. Said murderer wasn't in a dove field. He wasn't at a range. He wasn't confined to a place and needed his weapon for self defense. If you had a kid, would you advise him against taking a teammates gun to him at a bar/club late at night? Yes, you would. And why? Because the recipe is a bad one and everyone knows it. At ABSOLUTE MINIMUM, he did a reckless and irresponsible thing. At ABSOLUTE MINIMUM he didn't think through the consequences of his actions despite 50 blaring red warning signs going off to any reasonable person.

Posted by Marktastic86
Pismo Beach, CA
Member since Dec 2020
18039 posts
Posted on 2/21/23 at 3:23 pm to
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This is blatant accessory to murder.

So blatant the police let him go free and play basketball for a month.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54691 posts
Posted on 2/21/23 at 3:24 pm to
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Article clearly sates that Miller's car was struck with gun fire during this time, so no.
Did those shots make the vehicle inoperable?
Posted by rtr23242526
Member since Dec 2022
3295 posts
Posted on 2/21/23 at 3:26 pm to
miller is God damn genius just like the original gump..look it up
Posted by bamawriter
Nashville, TN
Member since Apr 2009
3225 posts
Posted on 2/21/23 at 3:31 pm to
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If you had a kid, would you advise him against taking a teammates gun to him at a bar/club late at night? Yes, you would.


Actually, I would tell him to do exactly that. If my kid's friend had been in my kid's car and had left his gun in the back seat, then I absolutely would tell my kid to take the gun back to him. The last thing I would want is for my kid to be pulled over with someone else's gun in his car.

Now, my even more practical advice would be "Don't let your buddy leave his gun in your car," but that advice would only be helpful depending on when in the chain of events my kid were to reach out to me.
This post was edited on 2/21/23 at 3:32 pm
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
57806 posts
Posted on 2/21/23 at 3:35 pm to
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He brought a murderer the murderer's gun. Said murderer wasn't in a dove field. He wasn't at a range. He wasn't confined to a place and needed his weapon for self defense. If you had a kid, would you advise him against taking a teammates gun to him at a bar/club late at night?


He took him his gun at an apartment complex. I don't know where any of these guys live, so I couldn't tell you who's apartment that is.

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Investigators determined that the shooting happened in the 400 Block of Grace Street off of University Boulevard.


ETA: I know it isn't the victim's apartment, because her and her boyfriend aren't from Tuscaloosa, so I imagine someone else involved must live there.
This post was edited on 2/21/23 at 3:40 pm
Posted by BFANLC
The Beach
Member since Oct 2007
20933 posts
Posted on 2/21/23 at 3:36 pm to
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murderer the murderer's gun


Miles owned the gun, Miles didn't physically pull the trigger, Davis did.


Just want to keep the facts straight. Imo a whole lot of people didn't use their heads that night.
Posted by vodka
Member since Sep 2018
1928 posts
Posted on 2/21/23 at 3:36 pm to
is providing the gun and blocking the escape route 1 assist or 2?
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54691 posts
Posted on 2/21/23 at 3:38 pm to
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Miles owned the gun, Miles didn't physically pull the trigger, Davis did.
And Miles is still an alleged murderer
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
57806 posts
Posted on 2/21/23 at 3:38 pm to
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Did those shots make the vehicle inoperable?



Doesn't really matter. After looking at the google maps street view, I find it hard to believe these guys were "blocking the road" and didn't catch a charge. This article is clearly not using that wording correctly.

It looks like you'd need at least 3 vehicles to actually block all exits on that road.
Posted by rtr23242526
Member since Dec 2022
3295 posts
Posted on 2/21/23 at 3:38 pm to
did miles tell miller he wanted the gun so he could shoot him in the heart or in the head...always remember and never forget..we dk jack because we ain't jack
Posted by LSU Grad Alabama Fan
369 Cardboard Box Lane
Member since Nov 2019
12937 posts
Posted on 2/21/23 at 3:39 pm to
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Miles owned the gun, Miles didn't physically pull the trigger, Davis did.


Just want to keep the facts straight. Imo a whole lot of people didn't use their heads that night.




Facts. Miles was charged with murder.
Posted by Pastor Mike
Florida
Member since Dec 2020
6036 posts
Posted on 2/21/23 at 3:40 pm to
Fact 2 - Being charged with a crime does not a guarantee guilty verdict
Posted by BFANLC
The Beach
Member since Oct 2007
20933 posts
Posted on 2/21/23 at 3:41 pm to
I understand but the distinction during trial will be made. Also Miles isn't guilty yet. So he isn't a murderer until convicted. Facts.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
57806 posts
Posted on 2/21/23 at 3:41 pm to
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Facts. Miles was charged with murder.


Yeah his involvement here is clear. Not sure why he decided to drag other people into this. He should have just gone and grabbed the gun from Miller instead of asking him to bring him a weapon he knew was going to be used in a crime.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
83326 posts
Posted on 2/21/23 at 3:42 pm to
Fair, appreciate the correction. My point is that I think the chance that Miller did nothing wrong are slim (criminal or otherwise).

I assume he had an idea of how his friends think/conduct themselves and didn't assume when bringing a firearm to a bar at night that there was zero chance it could be used in an act of violence.

Maybe it turns out that the text completely misled Miller into thinking it was an innocuous situation, but it's hard to fathom.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
17947 posts
Posted on 2/21/23 at 3:44 pm to
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You think same set of facts, but all of the parties are just unknown black men, that a person that had Miller’s level of involvement never gets arrested or charged?


Depends on where the incident happened and the local DA.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
57806 posts
Posted on 2/21/23 at 3:44 pm to
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bringing a firearm to a bar at night


Again, the location mentioned in the article is an apartment complex (or maybe a townhome). Definitely not a bar. You can look it up for yourself:

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Investigators determined that the shooting happened in the 400 Block of Grace Street off of University Boulevard.


ETA: Since his car was also present during the shooting (some of it was caught on his dash cam), that means he met them there.
This post was edited on 2/21/23 at 3:45 pm
Posted by bamawriter
Nashville, TN
Member since Apr 2009
3225 posts
Posted on 2/21/23 at 3:46 pm to
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This article is clearly not using that wording correctly.


Eh. That's splitting hairs. Grace St isn't even big enough to have a line down the middle. If Miller had pulled up to Miles and Davis rather than pulling into a parking spot, then it would be pretty accurate to say that he was "blocking the road." But there is a big difference between "blocking the road" and "intentionally blocking the victim's car the prevent it from leaving."
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
36703 posts
Posted on 2/21/23 at 3:46 pm to
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imjustafatkid


Basically what you continue to say is,if a guy plays football or basketball for Alabama that makes him incapable of any wrong doing,correct?
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