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re: Both Saban and Bielema in the room campaigning for the 10 second rule
Posted on 2/13/14 at 3:58 pm to WDE24
Posted on 2/13/14 at 3:58 pm to WDE24
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What? Malzahn has never said that.
From the mouth of Gus Malzahn at SEC Media Days 2013: "If you're going to look at rule changes, officials, we need to look at the guys on defense that are faking injuries to slow down these pace teams."
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So yea, Gus has no problem lobbying for offseason rule changes that help his style of play.
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Posted on 2/13/14 at 3:59 pm to Monticello
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faking
Key part you "conveniently" left out of your original post. His statement also goes in line with helping enforce the ethical standards of the NCAA.
Good try though.
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Like how Malzahn wants to change the rules to prevent injuries from slowing his offense
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Posted on 2/13/14 at 3:59 pm to Monticello
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Like how Malzahn wants to change the rules to prevent injuries from slowing his offense?
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we need to look at the guys on defense that are faking injuries to slow down these pace teams."
hmmmm
quote:It is just lobbying for a way to enforce the rules already in the ethical standards set by the NCAA.
So yea, Gus has no problem lobbying for offseason rule changes that help his style of play.
This post was edited on 2/13/14 at 4:01 pm
Posted on 2/13/14 at 4:00 pm to BamaNixon
quote:I think a rule will eventually have to be put in place not just for HUNH but for coaches that might try to use fake injuries as a time out sometime. Since player safety is a big concern of the NCAA and even coaches against the HUNH then it wouldn't have many against it.
Great. So then you're opposed to any rule change that would make it easier to penalize teams for faking injuries, right?
Posted on 2/13/14 at 4:00 pm to BamaNixon
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So when people lobby to change the rules to keep him from getting a huge talent advantage, then those people are whining and crying and bullshite as well, right?
To be fair, it has always been against NCAA rules to pay players to come play for you.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 4:00 pm to BamaNixon
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In what way? Honestly. If there was a rule that said you could only recruit players in your own state, wouldn't that change the game? I think the line you're drawing is arbitrary.
It is quite simple. Changes to recruiting rules have at most a secondary or tertiary impact on the actual game on the field. Changing game rules has a direct impact. There's nothing arbitrary about that.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 4:01 pm to Rabern57
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Going to lobby for a rule to try to stop the coaches from using a style he can't beat unless he has a huge talent advantage
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Lying at first and saying it was for safety reasons
It is
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hen back tracking when the numbers proved he was wrong.
He isnt wrong. More plays = more injuries.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 4:02 pm to TreyAnastasio
quote:Let's outlaw the forward pass. That leads to more plays than the HUNH does. Lets just play 6 games or 0. How much are we worried about player safety? Just enough to fit Saban's ideal world?
More plays = more injuries.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 4:03 pm to WDE24
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It is already against the NCAA ethical standards. It is just something that is difficult to enforce and I think the NCAA will avoid doing so unless things start getting to a ridiculous level on the injury faking front.
So how would you define "a ridiculous level"? Would this qualify as injury faking to a ridiculous level?
Posted on 2/13/14 at 4:03 pm to WDE24
Those would all help player safety too
Although, I would say the forward pass leads to less plays because they eat up more YPP.
Although, I would say the forward pass leads to less plays because they eat up more YPP.
This post was edited on 2/13/14 at 4:04 pm
Posted on 2/13/14 at 4:05 pm to TheRookbird
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WRONG. Rules for the game are different. You're only arguing that ignorant point because you feel like you are defending your coach.
How are they different? They both govern the way things are done. One is off the field one is on the field. The point is not ignorant. It is different than your point of view. You want to make Saban look bad. A lot of AU fans were shouting with joy when they initiated the Saban Rule so that their coach could go duck hunting more.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 4:06 pm to Monticello
quote:Enough that ESPN wouldn't stop talking about it until they created a rule to address it.
So how would you define "a ridiculous level"?
quote:That was ridiculous and I would have no problem with a player that did that having to sit for a quarter or cost his team a time out. BTW and FWIW, that fake injury didn't slow the offense down. The offense was just starting their huddle.
Would this qualify as injury faking to a ridiculous level?
Posted on 2/13/14 at 4:06 pm to TreyAnastasio
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It is
Everyone knows the safety reason is a complete joke by now.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 4:06 pm to TreyAnastasio
quote:The tweets show he is there. You don't go about something you aren't pushing for.
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quote:He back tracked quickly and started claiming he was "just saying it might be something to look into" when cornered with the numbers. Showing he was just making an excuse because he didn't like it without having a legit argument.
It is
quote:Well the numbers that made Saban back track showed his style and Bret's hurt more players than Gus and Oregon did. So I guess we should pass rules to stop them from playing their way too?
He isnt wrong. More plays = more injuries.
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Posted on 2/13/14 at 4:06 pm to TreyAnastasio
quote:They also stop the clock much more. The teams at the top of the plays per game stats are mostly passing teams.
Although, I would say the forward pass leads to less plays because they eat up more YPP.
This post was edited on 2/13/14 at 4:09 pm
Posted on 2/13/14 at 4:07 pm to Rabern57
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The tweets show he is there.
Yep
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You don't go about something you aren't pushing for.
Conjecture
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Showing he was just making an excuse to because he didn't like it without having a legit argument.
Again, conjecture
And are you really arguing that more plays = less injuries?
Posted on 2/13/14 at 4:08 pm to Monticello
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Would this qualify as injury faking to a ridiculous level
na they just say he was actually hurt, barner cult mentality
Posted on 2/13/14 at 4:08 pm to blzr
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Everyone knows the safety reason is a complete joke by now.
Totally agree. But when the NCAA rules committee consists of people like the following, you have to speak their BS language to get what you want.
Shelley Appelbaum, senior women's administrator, Michigan State.
Derita Ratcliffe, senior women's administrator, UAB.
Jeff Hurd, commissioner, WAC.
Noreen Morris, commissioner, Northeast Conference.
Lisa Sweany, AD, Armstrong Atlantic State University.
Kristy Bayer, senior women's administrator, Arkansas Tech.
Doug Zipp, AD, Shenandoah University.
Lynn Oberbillig, AD, Smith College.
Sue Lauder, AD, Fitchburg State University.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 4:09 pm to TreyAnastasio
Auburn is down to 3 plays now and nick still can't stop it. Next it will be no more running up the middle, to hard on linebackers.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 4:09 pm to Monticello
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But when the NCAA rules committee consists of people like the following
The list is clearly missing Nick Saban
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