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re: Black Bears are getting more violations.
Posted on 7/12/16 at 3:41 pm to dores97
Posted on 7/12/16 at 3:41 pm to dores97
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"The Student Assistance Fund is intended to provide direct benefits to student-athletes or their families as determined by conference offices"
2 seconds on google. Try it sometime.
Now if this is how it was done, is it shady, yes. Against the rules? Doesn't look like it.
You should take a few additional seconds and actually read about the fund.
quote:
As a guiding principle, the fund shall be used to assist student-athletes in meeting financial needs that arise in conjunction with participation in intercollegiate athletics, enrollment in an academic curriculum or that recognize academic achievement.
I don't think Momma Tunsil's light bill meets this criteria. Additionally, I'm not naive enough to think this is something that Tunsil was the ONLY player on that roster to benefit from.
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Posted on 7/12/16 at 3:43 pm to Land Dawg
I'd keep cheating.
In fact, the only way for a mid-to-lower tier team to ever win anything of substance is to cheat. The very system itself is set up so that premiere teams like Alabama, LSU, Florida, etc. stand on the shoulders of MSU, Ole Miss, Vandy, Kentucky, and so on.
That's why the SEC has teams like Ole Miss. So that top-tier teams can stand on their shoulders and reap the benefits, and thus go on to win championships -- and then in turn reinvest those winnings into the pot that benefits the conference schools as a whole.
Effectively, Ole Miss, MSU, Kentucky, Vandy and the rest get paid to lose. That is their form and function. And since schools like Ole Miss, MSU, Kentucky, Vandy, and so on get paid to lose, our schools effectively whore themselves out for money.
Each of these schools could find greater success outside the conference, but they'd rather lose and get money than win and get less. Whores. That's what it comes down to.
And that's the little game that is played. The conference pretends there is parity and that every member has a chance at success, but the obfuscated understanding is that success is about putting your best foot forward. And teams like Ole Miss, MSU, Kentucky, etc. will never be the conference's best foot. Thus, they will never achieve any kind of substantive success.
In fact, the only way for a mid-to-lower tier team to ever win anything of substance is to cheat. The very system itself is set up so that premiere teams like Alabama, LSU, Florida, etc. stand on the shoulders of MSU, Ole Miss, Vandy, Kentucky, and so on.
That's why the SEC has teams like Ole Miss. So that top-tier teams can stand on their shoulders and reap the benefits, and thus go on to win championships -- and then in turn reinvest those winnings into the pot that benefits the conference schools as a whole.
Effectively, Ole Miss, MSU, Kentucky, Vandy and the rest get paid to lose. That is their form and function. And since schools like Ole Miss, MSU, Kentucky, Vandy, and so on get paid to lose, our schools effectively whore themselves out for money.
Each of these schools could find greater success outside the conference, but they'd rather lose and get money than win and get less. Whores. That's what it comes down to.
And that's the little game that is played. The conference pretends there is parity and that every member has a chance at success, but the obfuscated understanding is that success is about putting your best foot forward. And teams like Ole Miss, MSU, Kentucky, etc. will never be the conference's best foot. Thus, they will never achieve any kind of substantive success.
Posted on 7/12/16 at 3:44 pm to Whereisomaha
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No coach has been fired
You keep saying this so let me help you out. Under the new NCAA rules the head coach is ultimately held responsible. So in saying that, if the school were to fire any of said coaches then that ties back to Freezes job and there is no plausible deniability anymore.
Understood, the administration and the fan base have dug a hole so deep that it's too late to throw away the shovel and give up.
Posted on 7/12/16 at 3:46 pm to dores97
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Try it sometime.
okay, here you go.
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Prohibited Uses for the Fund (include but are not limitedto):
? Entertainment expenses
? Electronics that are not academically related and media (CD’s, DVD’s, video games,
etc.)
? Clothing for friends
? Payment for car repairs to enable a student-athlete's spouse to drive to job interviews
? Payment for required course-related books, inasmuch as this is permitted under existing
legislation
? Baby-sitting expenses
? Expenses for family members
? Calls home because student-athlete is homesick
? Jewelry
? Cosmetics (except for medical purposes)
? Academic planners
? Graduate/Professional school entrance exam prep. courses (e.g., LSAT, GMAT)
? Purchase of calculator required for class (can only be rented to student-athlete, not
purchased for them to keep after the class is completed)
Posted on 7/12/16 at 3:48 pm to bamasgot13
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You should take a few additional seconds and actually read about the fund.
You would think that after taking the time to look it up and post it that he would actually read it.
Posted on 7/12/16 at 3:49 pm to bamasgot13
Posted on 7/12/16 at 3:54 pm to EC Reb
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LINK
yes emergency travel is covered...
Posted on 7/12/16 at 3:59 pm to bamasgot13
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I don't think Momma Tunsil's light bill meets this criteria.
well the going accusation is that Freeze paid Momma Tunsil's moving expenses and gave them a house.
If that happened to be true...how do you know that Tunsil wasn't living there? Momma's living expense now also becomes Tunsil's living expense.
Posted on 7/12/16 at 3:59 pm to EC Reb
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EC Reb
If you were hoping that your link would say the fund covers momma's utility bills then I have some disappointing news for you.
Posted on 7/12/16 at 3:59 pm to bamasgot13
I did read that sentence and knew that is what you would jump to. It says guiding principle but leaves it up to the conference offices to determine. You don't think the admin staff at all these schools don't twist the language to what it needs to be so they can get a little money to these kids? Like I said, shady but not necessarily against the rules if they have the paperwork to back it up.
I think Maryland used this fund to buy all of their players ipads or something like that. They can use it for whatever they can justify to the conference office.
I think Maryland used this fund to buy all of their players ipads or something like that. They can use it for whatever they can justify to the conference office.
Posted on 7/12/16 at 4:01 pm to pankReb
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Momma's living expense now also becomes Tunsil's living expense.
Which falls under his living expense stipend that he gets, which doesnt change
Posted on 7/12/16 at 4:02 pm to dores97
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They can use it for whatever they can justify to the conference office.
there is a process for approval of use of that fund. that process includes compliance department involvement. if Ole Miss' compliance dept approved money to cover a student athlete's mom's utility bills then Ole Miss is in worse trouble than we think.
Posted on 7/12/16 at 4:02 pm to NYCAuburn
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okay, here you go.
quote:
Prohibited Uses for the Fund (include but are not limitedto):
? Entertainment expenses
? Electronics that are not academically related and media (CD’s, DVD’s, video games,
etc.)
? Clothing for friends
? Payment for car repairs to enable a student-athlete's spouse to drive to job interviews
? Payment for required course-related books, inasmuch as this is permitted under existing
legislation
? Baby-sitting expenses
? Expenses for family members
? Calls home because student-athlete is homesick
? Jewelry
? Cosmetics (except for medical purposes)
? Academic planners
? Graduate/Professional school entrance exam prep. courses (e.g., LSAT, GMAT)
? Purchase of calculator required for class (can only be rented to student-athlete, not
purchased for them to keep after the class is completed)
Link? Not saying it's not there, just not in the document I googled. Like I said didn't spend long googling.
Posted on 7/12/16 at 4:02 pm to dores97
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I think Maryland used this fund to buy all of their players ipads or something like that.
Falls under electronics for education
Posted on 7/12/16 at 4:03 pm to pankReb
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how do you know that Tunsil wasn't living there? Momma's living expense now also becomes Tunsil's living expense.
It would then be HIS expense and he would have that covered and the need to ask for it would A) be eliminated and B) if he DID ask for it, I would anticipate the request being for "my utility bill", not "mom's"
Posted on 7/12/16 at 4:05 pm to dores97
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They can use it for whatever they can justify to the conference office.
It is a little naive to think the conference office would allow for this.
Posted on 7/12/16 at 4:06 pm to bamasgot13
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It would then be HIS expense and he would have that covered
and thus, John Miller would have felt the need to ask why the amounts kept changing if he was cleared to receive x amount per month.
Posted on 7/12/16 at 4:10 pm to fillmoregandt
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and thus, John Miller would have felt the need to ask why the amounts kept changing if he was cleared to receive x amount per month.
Their living expense stipend doesnt change from month to month
Posted on 7/12/16 at 4:10 pm to pankReb
I don't think I've ever seen anything like the spinning going on in here.
This post was edited on 7/12/16 at 4:12 pm
Posted on 7/12/16 at 4:10 pm to fillmoregandt
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and thus, John Miller would have felt the need to ask why the amounts kept changing if he was cleared to receive x amount per month.
But John Miller would NOT ask, "Your mom's bill? Dude, you know we can't pay that".
Reminder of the text exchange (also - note the odd "can u meet me at the ipf right now?" text he sent to Miller at 10:25pm on a Thursday night...what was so important that he had to meet at indoor practice facility "right now" and it couldn't wait until morning?)
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