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re: Biggest Cheater in SEC?

Posted on 3/18/12 at 3:34 pm to
Posted by bayoubreeze
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2005
1027 posts
Posted on 3/18/12 at 3:34 pm to
Coach Cal is the biggest in B Ball. That guy is amazing in how he pays his players. Will this be the year his 3rd final four team is voided?
Posted by Dodgson
Member since Feb 2012
722 posts
Posted on 3/18/12 at 3:49 pm to
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Nevin Shapiro is a good example of this. He took it so far beyond the pale that an exception should be made.


Oh yeah, I see what you are saying there. It will probably take years to fully unravel that mess.
Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
38475 posts
Posted on 3/18/12 at 3:55 pm to
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I wasn't aware that Bryant was ever caught cheating....


https://web1.ncaa.org/LSDBi/exec/miSearch

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Institution: University of Alabama Date: January 5, 1964

Violation Sumary: Improper recruiting contact.


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University of Alabama, Tuscaloosa

WHEREAS, the NCAA Committee on Infractions has investigated an alleged violation of NCAA legislation on the part of the University of Alabama, Tuscaloosa, and has reported its
findings to the Council;

WHEREAS, the Council has found the University of Alabama to have violated the provisions governing recruiting (Article VI, Section 8, NCAA Bylaws), in that football coaches of the university recruited a student-athlete enrolled at another institution without first contacting and obtaining permission from the director of athletics of that institution;

WHEREAS, the Council has noted that the prospective student-athlete initiated contact with the University of Alabama during a time when he was not in college; however, coaches at the
university continued their recruiting interest in him after he had enrolled in another institution;

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that the Council reprimand and censure the University of Alabama;

BE IT FINALLY RESOLVED, that record be made of the cooperation extended to the NCAA and its Committee on Infractions by the executive and athletic administrations of the University of Alabama.

January 5, 1964
Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
38475 posts
Posted on 3/18/12 at 3:57 pm to
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If Bryant was a cheater, he was the best, because he got away with it for 20 years. I just don't think you can be a flagrant cheater and get away with it for that long.



Bryant admitted to paying for players while at Texas A&M in his own biography.

I guess he just turned over a whole new leaf while he was at Bama. Man was pure as the driven snow.
Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
38475 posts
Posted on 3/18/12 at 3:59 pm to
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Wasn't he arm in arm with Logan?


Take a guess at another Bama coach that was "arm in arm" with Logan (and his father).

But I'm sure Logan Young never did anything before the Albert Means saga. Man was pure as the driven snow and was entrapped by the gubmint.
Posted by BamaChemE
Midland, TX
Member since Feb 2012
7364 posts
Posted on 3/18/12 at 4:09 pm to
I'd like to cast my vote for Danny Sheriden's mysterious bagman as the biggest cheater in SEC history. (He's the abominidable snowman of SEC football)
Posted by secfan123
beverly hills
Member since Jan 2010
9646 posts
Posted on 3/18/12 at 4:12 pm to
aubies get so cute when trying to tie cheating to bear and alabama. They just want it so bad, evidence be damned!
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
19285 posts
Posted on 3/18/12 at 4:14 pm to
Patrick Fain Dye.

Only SEC head coach I'm aware of that was fired by the NCAA from it's university.
Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
26387 posts
Posted on 3/18/12 at 4:17 pm to
to my knowledge...No team in the history of CFB can top this. If someone knows of a team who has more games "retroactively updated".....Please post it.

Posted by secfan123
beverly hills
Member since Jan 2010
9646 posts
Posted on 3/18/12 at 4:33 pm to
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to my knowledge...



well that's your first problem, depending on your knowledge. IT jsut doesnt run real deep!

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No team in the history of CFB can top this. If someone knows of a team who has more games "retroactively updated".....Please post it.


Florida had an sec title taken away. USC lost a bcs title. if you dont think thats worse than some meaningless games, well, damn i dont know what else to say to you.
Posted by allin2010
Auburn
Member since Aug 2011
18316 posts
Posted on 3/18/12 at 4:36 pm to
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Posted by ? Patrick Fain Dye. Only SEC head coach I'm aware of that was fired by the NCAA from it's university.


You have a link to that? Dye resigned, he was NOT fired. Also the NCAA did not fire DYE, just more Bama babble.
Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
26387 posts
Posted on 3/18/12 at 4:42 pm to
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Florida had an sec title taken away. USC lost a bcs title. if you dont think thats worse than some meaningless games, well, damn i dont know what else to say to you


If you going to "spin it"...why don't you go all in and claim that Bama did it on purpose so they could celebrate the 800 win mark......twice.
Posted by mgmbamafan
Member since Jan 2011
572 posts
Posted on 3/18/12 at 4:44 pm to
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No team in the history of CFB can top this. If someone knows of a team who has more games "retroactively updated".....Please post it.-------------------

Florida had an sec title taken away. USC lost a bcs title. if you dont think thats worse than some meaningless games, well, damn i dont know what else to say to you.


Florida did NOT have an SEC taken away... Not listed in the NCAA database... What year are you referring to?

1990: Public reprimand; annual reports; vacation of 1987 and 1988 NCAA basketball championship records; return of revenue from 1988 championship; maximum of 13 grants in basketball for 1990-91 and 14 for 1992-93; recertification ...


Penalty Summary: Maximum of 20 initial grants for 1985-86 and 1986-87; maximum of 85 total grants for 1985-86 and 75 total grants for 1986-87; annual reports regarding compliance programs.

Posted by Thibodaux Hog
Texarkana, TX
Member since Mar 2012
205 posts
Posted on 3/18/12 at 4:44 pm to
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pretty much every coach that has coached in the state of Alabama
pretty much the above to the 100th percentile
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
34743 posts
Posted on 3/18/12 at 5:01 pm to
quote:

Biggest Cheater in SEC?




The conversation begins and ends with Adolph Rupp. The first school to ever receive sanctions and the death penalty.
This post was edited on 3/18/12 at 5:03 pm
Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
WeWaCo
Member since Dec 2007
37538 posts
Posted on 3/18/12 at 5:04 pm to
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Glad you pointed out some of Bears students. They really failed at it because they couldn't hide it like bear, but they didn't have the club either
Posted by allin2010
Auburn
Member since Aug 2011
18316 posts
Posted on 3/18/12 at 5:07 pm to
Is it cheating if you do not get caught?
Posted by secfan123
beverly hills
Member since Jan 2010
9646 posts
Posted on 3/18/12 at 5:07 pm to
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If you going to "spin it"...why don't you go all in and claim that Bama did it on purpose so they could celebrate the 800 win mark......twice.


I didnt spin anything. merely pointed out your ignorance.
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
140509 posts
Posted on 3/18/12 at 5:08 pm to
ULL Basketball got the Death Penalty and sanctions I believe in the 70's.

ETA: read your post incorrectly, my mistake.
This post was edited on 3/18/12 at 5:09 pm
Posted by allin2010
Auburn
Member since Aug 2011
18316 posts
Posted on 3/18/12 at 5:08 pm to
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I didnt spin anything. merely pointed out your ignorance.


For the SECOND time, please show me a link that has Florida having to vacate an SEC due to the NCAA?

I think you are mistaken...
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