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re: Big Jeff Stoutland...beast mode!
Posted on 8/16/11 at 5:35 pm to lowspark12
Posted on 8/16/11 at 5:35 pm to lowspark12
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tbh, i thought Hill was a player... my bad.
10 Hail Marys.
Posted on 8/16/11 at 5:53 pm to NBamaAlum
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The University of Alabama (Pannunzio and Soutland)
Seriously, these 2 guys at the very least should be put on paid leave pending an investigation. I don't want them anywhere near players or recruits.
Posted on 8/16/11 at 5:55 pm to Govt Tide
come on man... there's no way to know what there involvememnt is. That's a bit of an overreaction, imo. If once they're interviewed(if they're interviewed) by the NCAA and serious stuff comes out, then consider it.... but now, just let it play out.
Posted on 8/16/11 at 5:57 pm to The Egg
If it's true then he should be fired.
Posted on 8/16/11 at 6:16 pm to lowspark12
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but when the "10" comes out, a current Alabama assitant coach is implicated.
At another school where boosters apparently do what they please. That's not exactly the case as long as Nick Saban is around at Alabama.
Posted on 8/16/11 at 6:21 pm to CapstoneGrad06
yeah... i highly doubt those two are cheating at alabama... it's just ironic that alabama was mentioned, not auburn.
Posted on 8/16/11 at 6:22 pm to CapstoneGrad06
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That's not exactly the case as long as Nick Saban is around at Alabama.
To quote Bellabama:
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Everyone who has any sense knows that college football is dirty. All of it. Acting like nothing is going on, for any school, is just flat out dumb.
Posted on 8/16/11 at 6:25 pm to hubris
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Everyone who has any sense knows that college football is dirty. All of it. Acting like nothing is going on, for any school, is just flat out dumb.
I think you must assume that coaches have control over every booster, or that when I said that, I said all coaches were dirty.
You are a total dumbass.
Posted on 8/16/11 at 6:26 pm to hubris
Let me give you one as well. Everyone goes 55 in a 50. Some schools go 80.
Posted on 8/16/11 at 6:27 pm to NBamaAlum
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Let me give you one as well. Everyone goes 55 in a 50. Some schools go 80.
Except Auburn. They drive 50.
This post was edited on 8/16/11 at 6:27 pm
Posted on 8/16/11 at 6:27 pm to lowspark12
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yeah... i highly doubt those two are cheating at alabama... it's just ironic that alabama was mentioned, not auburn.
I find it more ironic that we'd even acknowledge anyone from that cesspool in S Florida better known as the city of Miami. Especially when you consider the problems that Saban has had professionally with anything involving that overrated city.
While I thought Auburn MIGHT have been the subject of the "10" story, I was far from convinced. In fact, I thought it would have involved several teams.
Posted on 8/16/11 at 6:29 pm to Bellabama
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Except Auburn. They drive 50
Please. We're on the Vespa doing 35 and getting horns honked at us.

Posted on 8/16/11 at 6:30 pm to Bellabama
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I think you must assume that coaches have control over every booster, or that when I said that, I said all coaches were dirty.
You are a total dumbass.
Umad cause Alabama and not Auburn is in the 10.
Posted on 8/16/11 at 6:37 pm to hubris
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Umad cause Alabama and not Auburn is in the 10.
No. I find ignorant know-it-alls annoying as frick.
Posted on 8/16/11 at 6:41 pm to Bellabama
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No. I find ignorant know-it-alls annoying as frick.
Lighten up, Alabama fans dish it but can't take it. You presume that I am posting seriously, I am just goofin' around on a message board.
Posted on 8/16/11 at 6:42 pm to hubris
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Umad cause Alabama and not Auburn is in the 10.
Miami =/ Alabama
Posted on 8/16/11 at 6:54 pm to hubris
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Lighten up, Alabama fans dish it but can't take it. You presume that I am posting seriously, I am just goofin' around on a message board.

I assure you, I am not taking this seriously. That said, I will look forward to when you are serious and make smarter statements, though, you could be messing around and say smarter things too...

Posted on 8/16/11 at 6:57 pm to Bellabama
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I love the joking defense. At least you said Alabama fans, and didn't assume I was getting all pissy because I am a girl.
I assure you, I am not taking this seriously. That said, I will look forward to when you are serious and make smarter statements, though, you could be messing around and say smarter things too...
What would be the fun in that? Gotta live up to my Auburn fan stereotype obligations.
...but seriously is it that time of the month?
Posted on 8/16/11 at 7:02 pm to hubris
Each person mentioned has their own page linked to that article. You just have to click on their name.
This was what was on Jeff Stoutland's page:
Not good. But not all that horrible either. Seems Stoutland took one recruit to visit Shapiro.
This was what was on Jeff Stoutland's page:
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Nevin Shapiro alleges that Jeff Stoutland was present when he had impermissible contact with offensive line recruit Matt Patchan in the summer of 2007. Among Shapiro’s allegations:
• Stoutland joined a second coach, identified by two sources as then-assistant Joe Pannunzio, at Shapiro’s $6 million Miami Beach mansion for a recruiting pitch to offensive line prospect Matt Patchan. The visit, which Shapiro and two sources said occurred in the summer of 2007, included Patchan, three members of the recruit’s family (his mother, father and uncle), two Miami assistants and Hurricanes players Robert Marve, A.J. Trump, Derrick Morse and Jason Fox.
• Shapiro said Stoutland was on hand while he gave Patchan and his family a tour of his home and made a recruiting pitch for the Hurricanes.
Corroborating accounts
• Two sources present at Patchan’s alleged visit to Shapiro’s home corroborated the presence of the recruit and his family, as well as the presence of two Miami assistants and multiple Miami players.
In Shapiro’s words
• “Jeff Stoutland I met a couple of times. He was an offensive line coach. One time in particular he was at my house in the recruitment of Matt Patchan, a player from Seffner. Florida, I believe. Matt Patchan came to my house with his father and his mom and his uncle, who played at the University of Miami. I think it was his uncle. Coach Stoutland was just part of the recruiting visit. After that, we spoke maybe three or four times, or whenever I would see him at team functions.”
Not good. But not all that horrible either. Seems Stoutland took one recruit to visit Shapiro.
This post was edited on 8/16/11 at 7:03 pm
Posted on 8/16/11 at 7:03 pm to Kingpin
I'd prefer he not be allowed to have any recruiting contact the rest of the season and replace him after the season at this point.
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