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Big 12 better than the SEC, at least at the top

Posted on 1/4/19 at 9:57 am
Posted by arinze
Member since Jan 2019
60 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 9:57 am
Let’s look at the facts.......

Of games played by top 4 BIG12 teams:
#1 Oklahoma loses to bama but plays them closer than any SEC team has this year (save Georgia)
#2 Texas absolutely PUNKS Georgia dominating from start to finish against the clear 2nd best team in Sec all year
#3 West Virginia loses to Syracuse but ONLY because they are missing their key piece quarterback who was arguably the most important single player to any bowl team this season, would’ve easily won with will grier
#4 Iowa State barely loses to a 13 ranked Washington state team in a game that is widely considered referree assisted for Wazzu.

Additionally, middle of the pack/slightly bad big 12 teams beat middle of the pack sec teams convincingly. Baylor-Vandy was a push of two lowly ranked conference teams, but when it was all said and done Baylor hung 700 yards on them. Oklahoma state literally went THREE AND SIX in big 12 conference play but controlled the whole game against an 8 win SEC team. Is it about time we realize that 1) sec scheduling is clearly weaker and inflates bad teams records with the one less conference game and 2) the big 12 may not have as many good teams as sec (it’s also not fair to compare 10 teams vs 14, but I digress) but the league has a more modern scheme which is at the moment is more effective football than what the sec plays. Add in the chasm sized quarterback play disparity between the two leagues (ehlinger was the 3rd or 4th best big 12 qb this year, while if he were in the sec we’d be arguing he’s possibly the best) and the big 12 just got it done more so this year and was the better conference. I’m an sec fan but it’s just really hard to argue with results. I think going into next year big 12 is the conference to bear, and is the one conference that could potentially have 2 playoff teams, if both Texas and Oklahoma truly play to the peak of their powers next year.
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
55190 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 9:58 am to
This is terrible and dumb
Posted by oman
Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
3280 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 10:00 am to
Old Sarge is mentally impaired but even a mentally impaired person is right twice a day.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 10:00 am to
quote:

#1 Oklahoma loses to bama but plays them closer than any SEC team has this year (save Georgia)


So not closer than any SEC team
Posted by VFL1800FPD
Nashville, TN
Member since Aug 2012
9056 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 10:01 am to
quote:

Big 12 better than the SEC, at least at the top


The top of the SEC is playing for a natty/about to win the Natty so...what the frick are you talking about

I hate Bama, im not dickriding. Its just facts
Posted by arinze
Member since Jan 2019
60 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 10:03 am to
Bama is your only response. Every year it’s a similar story.
Posted by labamafan
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2007
24263 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 10:03 am to
Bama put the brakes on. Everyone watching knew that and chose not to rub it in by kneeling the last drive.
Posted by UFMatt
Gator Nation - Everywhere
Member since Oct 2010
11418 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 10:05 am to
post less or stop drinking and posting.
Posted by arinze
Member since Jan 2019
60 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 10:06 am to
Well honestly anyone would be dumb to pretend like bama isn’t the best team, but the main argument was that outside of bama Texas and Oklahoma are both better than Georgia, so......

Tops of the league would look like:
1) Bama
2) Oklahoma
3) Texas
4) Georgia
5) WVU/Florida

And it’s pretty hard to argue that. So the conferences are a push/BIG12 slightly better
Posted by arinze
Member since Jan 2019
60 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 10:08 am to
In SEC play Alabama won every game by at least 24 points. People were commending A&M for even coming within 24. That is an absolute fricking joke. There’s 5 big 12 teams that would’ve at least come within 3 touchdowns
Posted by PorkerDaddy
Arkansas
Member since Dec 2018
640 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 10:09 am to
Since when did being behind 28-0 is considered playing close? Thats the 1st qtr. Bama lost interest because it was plain there was no challenge at that point
Posted by UFMatt
Gator Nation - Everywhere
Member since Oct 2010
11418 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 10:10 am to
Wait a minute, I actually took time to read your dribble.

Of the top 4 teams you listed, 3 lost in their bowl games.

Back to the drawing board.
Posted by arinze
Member since Jan 2019
60 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 10:11 am to
Okay I know Arkansas isn’t talking. Arkansas would lose handily to Kansas.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
16437 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 10:11 am to
Sweet, another new alter
Posted by bunkerhill
Georgia
Member since Oct 2017
1368 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 10:12 am to
Don't put a lot of stock in that Texas win over Georgia. The Sugar Bowl should withhold Georgia's cut of the payoff for being a no-show.

Something that is happening in post-season play now is how irrelevant the bowl games are becoming. If they go to an 8 team playoff the large bowls are history, imo. To keep the bowls relevant, for the time being, bowls should match-up teams without regard for bowl tie-ins. Have the other New Years bowls have some kind of rotating pecking order. This might keep some interest in the non-playoff bowls.
Posted by arinze
Member since Jan 2019
60 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 10:13 am to
And of the 4 big 12 teams that played SEC,

Texas>Georgia
Baylor>Vanderbilt
Oklahoma state>mizzou
Alabama>Oklahoma (but tua actually had to play the 4th)

Idk bout you but looks to me like SEC powers would rather play in the sec not have to deal with these big 12 offenses..........
Posted by UFMatt
Gator Nation - Everywhere
Member since Oct 2010
11418 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 10:13 am to
quote:

Tops of the league would look like:


I fixed it for you

1)Bama
2)Florida
3)LSU
4)Georgia
5)Texas A&M
6)Oklahoma
7)Texas
Posted by sonuvapitcher
Member since Aug 2008
1674 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 10:14 am to
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#1 Oklahoma loses

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#2 Texas absolutely PUNKS Georgia

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#3 West Virginia loses

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#4 Iowa State barely loses


So your conference's best went 1-3 and you think that's good?

Posted by arinze
Member since Jan 2019
60 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 10:14 am to
HAHAHHAHA THE “GEORGIA WASNT INTERESTED” CROWD IS HERE HOLD TF UP LEMME GO GET POPCORN
Posted by arinze
Member since Jan 2019
60 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 10:15 am to
Laughable. Coming from an sec fan.
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