re: Big 10 proving why they are the best in 2017

Really? Why? Because they are 7-0 in bowls? They were/are actually favored in 7 out of 8 of their bowl games. Only Purdue was an underdog to Arizona. Michigan is an 8.5 point favorite over USCe tomorrow. Nwestern was a 9.5 favorite over Kentucky. The SEC has been the underdog in 3 out of 4 so far. Missouri was a 3 point favorite and lost against Texas. State was a 7.5 point underdog and beat Louisville. The SEC is favored in 4 of the 5 games tomorrow. Let's wait and see how it pans out.

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Agree with SummerOfGeorge. It definitely varies from year to year on who belongs in a playoff. Last two years Bama and Clemson were clearly better than anybody else. This year I agree there are six teams that could win it... I don't think any of these teams would beat the Bama or Clemson teams from the past two years.

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Yea - so the solution is either expand to 6 knowing that a lot of years there will be 2-3 really, really good teams and 3 teams that aren't as good but could spoil it. Or, you stay at 4 knowing some years there isn't a dominant team and there are probably 5-6 teams that are all pretty similar with flaws.

Imagine if this was pre-playoff and we had OU/UGA/Clemson fighting for 2 spots. Lawd, that'd be a war.

They were disrespected because of their logo. Wisconsin has a better strength of schedule on all the computer sites than Alabama (after Ohio state game?)


I don’t know what yards of offense means under Tuscaloosa impressive meter. People get a boner over Clemson and they lost to Syracuse. The badgers manhandled all the “Syracuse’s” on their schedule at least

There is Effing way if Alabama played the same schedule and had the exact same performances including the number one defense in the country statistically (stats are for losers) as Wisconsin did this year that they would be number 5 in the country. They would be number one at 12-0. I have no doubt about that. And I bet most people on here would say the same thing

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Wisconsin has a better strength of schedule on all the computer sites than Alabama (after Ohio state game?)

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Think that is only after both Ohio State and Miami. Alabama's SOS will be better again after they play Clemson. But, I do agree, Wisconsin definitely would have been ranked #1 or #2 if they were Ohio State, Alabama, USC, Michigan, etc. However, most of the "how good is the team" metrics that don't pay attention to jersey names had them around #6/#7 too, so there is something to the fact that they still weren't playing quite as well. It wasn't entirely "jersey name".

Takes nothing away from them, though. Very, very good team.

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But, I do agree, Wisconsin definitely would have been ranked #1 or #2 if they were Ohio State, Alabama, USC, Michigan, etc

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You think if any of those teams started the pre-season ranked somewhere in the 8-10 range, and 7 of their 12 opponents had losing records, they’d still be ranked #1 or #2?

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I agree summer of George. I’m not saying they were the best team in the country or deserved a playoff spot etc. they aren’t better than Clemson Alabama, etc but people treat them like they are western Michigan. That isn’t fair

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Totally agree.

Was t Alabama’s schedule pretty much garbage when they were undefeated and ranked number one?

Or am I wrong on that

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I can promise that I won't be going anywhere.

7-1 is still better than 7-4.

42 is still better than 35.

1 is still better than 0.

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And tOSU will simply be a footnote in the history of 2017 CFB.

Plus. Wisconsin ga,es weren’t really that close if I remember. They never had a tipped pass or a bad call or a last second field goal or one of those blip wtf games. They weren’t all 70-3 games but they weren’t sweating any of those games. And most of those were decided before the third quarter ended

I definitely think of the jersey said Texas for example they would have been number one

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7-1 is still better than 7-4

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Let's let the ranked teams play out first. The Big 10 has 5 ranked teams(5 OSU, 6 Wisconsin, 9 Penn State, 16 Mich St, and 21 NW) who all beat teams they were ranked higher than and favored. The SEC has 5 ranked teams(3 Georgia, 4 Bama, 7 Auburn, 17 LSU, and 23 Miss State) all are favored except State who won as a 7.5 underdog. I think if the other 4 SEC ranked teams win I don't think there's a doubt which conference is better. Let this thing play out.