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re: Bielema's take on recruiting stars

Posted on 2/4/14 at 11:50 am to
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 11:50 am to


is he really pimping a dude that he didn't originally recruit?

BB would look a ton better had Maragos actually started at Wisconsin instead of transferring in once his talent was more readily apparent.

but since he didn't...
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 11:51 am to
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Sounds like Bret likes to make excuses for his terrible recruiting

terrible recruiting = having more former players playing in the Super Bowl than any other active coach
Posted by beaver
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 11:53 am to
We used to point to stuff like this when Tubs could no longer recruit and we went downhill
Posted by WDE24
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 11:53 am to
I thought Alvarez was responsible for those recruits?
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 11:54 am to
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he could recruit them, but Alvarez had final say. just as all head coaches do.

kind of like chizik was the leader of recruiting efforts when malzahn was OC






Mike Sherman didn't want to recruit Johnny at first either. It took Tom Rossley hard selling him. That's what assistants who find talented kids on the recruiting trail do.

So what you are saying is that BB had such a weak voice that he couldn't convince Alverez of this kid's potential on defense even though he was eventually tapped to be the HC? B/c that's pretty much the best case scenario in this instance.


This post was edited on 2/4/14 at 12:06 pm
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 11:54 am to
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So you are saying Alvarez deserves all of the credit for any success Wisconsin had while Bert was HC?

I'd say a good portion of the success, but not all of it

Kind of like Chizik is responsible for a good portion of the success that happened at Auburn while Malzahn was OC
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 11:55 am to
All four of the players featured in the graphic – Denver’s Montee Ball and Seattle’s Russell Wilson, O’Brien Schofield and Chris Maragos – all played for Bielema while he was the head coach at Wisconsin. It’s kind of funny to see those guys, all Badgers, with the Arkansas logo next to them promoting the Arkansas football program.
Bielema went 3-9 and 0-8 in the SEC in his first year with the Razorbacks, so the program needs all the positive exposure it can get.

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Posted on 2/4/14 at 11:55 am to
awesome use of bold auburn poster person

Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 11:56 am to
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terrible recruiting = having more former players playing in the Super Bowl than any other active coach


so he recruited all of those guys?
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 11:56 am to
Use commas.
Posted by piggilicious
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 11:57 am to
yessir
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 11:57 am to
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We used to point to stuff like this when Tubs could no longer recruit and we went downhill

tubbs brought you the thumb

malzahn has brought you a finger

as of now tubbs >>> malzahn
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 12:00 pm to
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I thought Alvarez was responsible for those recruits?

Bert coached them

Alvarez may get partial credit
Posted by lowspark12
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 12:02 pm to
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Alvarez may get partial credit


this pretty much sums up all of BB's tenure at Wisconsin and is something hog fans are probably gonna learn the hard way.
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 12:03 pm to
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Mike Sherman didn't want to recruit Johnny at first either. It took Tom Rossley hard selling him. That's what assistants who find talented kids om the recruiting trail do.

Well selling johnny football would be a million times easier than selling a no star wide receiver being moved to free safety
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 12:04 pm to
2002 - Texas (2005)
2003 - LSU (2003)
2004 - USC (2004)
2005 - USC (none)
2006 - USC (none)
2007 - Florida (2008)
2008 - Alabama (2009, 2011)
2009 - Alabama (2009, 2011, 2012)
2010 - USC (none)
2011 - Alabama (2011, 2012)
2012 - Alabama (2012)
2013 - Alabama (none)

More appropriately, every BCS champion had at least one top 5 class.
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 12:05 pm to
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terrible recruiting = having more former players playing in the Super Bowl than any other active coach



so you think Bert develops SB talent

lol

he may be a great coach, but that's pure coincidence

not to mention his recruiting at Arkansas has been awul. And that's fact
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 12:06 pm to
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this pretty much sums up all of BB's tenure at Wisconsin and is something hog fans are probably gonna learn the hard way.

I could say the same thing about Malzahn's tenure at Auburn

Guess only time will tell which school made the better hire.
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 12:07 pm to
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He's a moderately crappy FS, with no picks, no passes defended, and only 37 tackles in 3 years.

That Bret is bragging about this guy is just plain sad.


Any safety that will develop good enough to play at that level is good enough to play in college at any school. He might not be great in the NFL but he'd start almost anywhere in the country by the time he was a junior.
This post was edited on 2/4/14 at 12:08 pm
Posted by Rebelgator
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 12:07 pm to
Bert is fat


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