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re: Better Offensive Mind: Bobby Petrino or Gary Crowton?
Posted on 8/22/09 at 10:54 pm to gatorprincess815
Posted on 8/22/09 at 10:54 pm to gatorprincess815
We're a little off topic, but I wanted to talk about what GP said.
Gatorprincess is right when it comes to Spurrier changing the SEC, and making it what it is today.
Turning back to 1990, the SEC had just emerged from a decade of running backs like Herschel Walker, Dalton Hillard, Emmitt Smith and Bo Jackson. Defenses, and defensive schemes were so run oriented it took YEARS to make enough adjustments to compete with the Evil Genius.
Not only did the coached have to evolve, the players had to evolve and the players did to.
LBs became much more athletic. Safeties more
athletic. DE's had to rush and cover. Tackles had to learn to two gap.
SEC Defenses and their overall defensive speed evolved as a result. While it took a 25 game winning streak to catch up with the Gators, when teams were able to stop UF, they were able to win championships. Like UT in 1998, and LSU in 2003 and 2007.
I credit Steve Spurrier with getting the SEC where it is now. He owned everyone, including cajun's Lord Saban, like rag dolls.
With all that said, you can't compare the schemes, like the West Coast offense the 49ers ran was different than the Run and Shoot.
Crowton and Petrino have different approaches than the Fun and Gun, which didn't actually utilize a mobile QB. The weapons of today's offenses are more diverse.
Spurrier changed the game ever so much more than Bear Bryant. We all know that the wishbone Bear run would never work in today's era. But the offense Spurrier team of 1996 ran would still work today.
And that's why Spurrier, not Bryant, is the greatest coach in SEC history.
Steve Spurrier was the most brillant offensive mind in the history of college football. But in this subject, I'm quite happy with GC.
Gatorprincess is right when it comes to Spurrier changing the SEC, and making it what it is today.
Turning back to 1990, the SEC had just emerged from a decade of running backs like Herschel Walker, Dalton Hillard, Emmitt Smith and Bo Jackson. Defenses, and defensive schemes were so run oriented it took YEARS to make enough adjustments to compete with the Evil Genius.
Not only did the coached have to evolve, the players had to evolve and the players did to.
LBs became much more athletic. Safeties more
athletic. DE's had to rush and cover. Tackles had to learn to two gap.
SEC Defenses and their overall defensive speed evolved as a result. While it took a 25 game winning streak to catch up with the Gators, when teams were able to stop UF, they were able to win championships. Like UT in 1998, and LSU in 2003 and 2007.
I credit Steve Spurrier with getting the SEC where it is now. He owned everyone, including cajun's Lord Saban, like rag dolls.
With all that said, you can't compare the schemes, like the West Coast offense the 49ers ran was different than the Run and Shoot.
Crowton and Petrino have different approaches than the Fun and Gun, which didn't actually utilize a mobile QB. The weapons of today's offenses are more diverse.
Spurrier changed the game ever so much more than Bear Bryant. We all know that the wishbone Bear run would never work in today's era. But the offense Spurrier team of 1996 ran would still work today.
And that's why Spurrier, not Bryant, is the greatest coach in SEC history.
Steve Spurrier was the most brillant offensive mind in the history of college football. But in this subject, I'm quite happy with GC.
Posted on 8/23/09 at 12:36 am to BT4LSU
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Spurrier, not Bryant, is the greatest coach in SEC history.
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But the offense Spurrier team of 1996 ran would still work today.
Signed the University of South Carolina football team. Sad and Pathetic Fail.
More proof why you are the laughing stock of this board. LMFAO.
This post was edited on 8/23/09 at 12:47 am
Posted on 8/23/09 at 4:44 am to BT4LSU
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and LSU in 2003
I get your point but believe Florida was our only loss in 03.
Posted on 8/23/09 at 10:10 am to Ross
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Why is petrino good?
Because wherever he goes; great offenses follow?
Not at Auburn!
Posted on 8/23/09 at 10:15 am to Bert Lyons 716
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Not at Auburn!
In one year he took them from dead last to first in passing efficiency and 3rd down conversions.
This post was edited on 8/23/09 at 10:16 am
Posted on 8/23/09 at 10:17 am to Ross
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He beat up on shite teams.
But Louisville wasn't some juggernaut either.
I mean; having Louisville win a BCS Bowl and be ranked so highly during his tenure is worthy of some accolades.
When bragging about Petrino's Bowl win,you guys conveniently fail to mention the opponent was a fluke,Wake Forest.
Ross is really a Hog fan who attends Auburn.
Posted on 8/23/09 at 10:17 am to Bert Lyons 716
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Not at Auburn!
How about you actually look at the statistics instead of acting retarded, alright?
Posted on 8/23/09 at 10:20 am to woopiginaustin
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Better Offensive Mind: Bobby Petrino or Gary Crowton?
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Not at Auburn!
In one year he took them from dead last to first in passing efficiency and 3rd down conversions.
pick and choose stats Woo. Auburn's offense was not feared.
Woo,have you seen LSU's CWS trophy?
Posted on 8/23/09 at 10:21 am to Bert Lyons 716
You are a moron.
He had one year; and in that year he improved our offense significantly from what it was the previous year.
GTFO.
He had one year; and in that year he improved our offense significantly from what it was the previous year.
GTFO.
Posted on 8/23/09 at 10:21 am to Ross
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How about you actually look at the statistics instead of acting retarded, alright?
Hogboy,nothing special.
Posted on 8/23/09 at 10:23 am to Ross
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Better Offensive Mind: Bobby Petrino or Gary Crowton?
You are a moron.
He had one year; and in that year he improved our offense significantly from what it was the previous year.
GTFO.
You going to make me Bad arse Hogboy?
Posted on 8/23/09 at 10:24 am to Bert Lyons 716
You going to respond to the fact that our offense under Petrino > our offense before Petrino?
Posted on 8/23/09 at 10:28 am to Ross
No, I guess you aren't. Because you can't. You only ever bring up that Auburn didn't rack up 500 yards/ game that year; you never opt to look that our offense drastically improved under Petrino's short tenure.
That is absolutely inane.
That is absolutely inane.
Posted on 8/23/09 at 10:29 am to Bert Lyons 716
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pick and choose stats Woo. Auburn's offense was not feared.
He had one fricking year jackass and in that year the offense made progress, even going from dead last to first in two categories.
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CWS Trophy
What the frick are you talking about? Did I ever say LSU wouldn't succeed in Baseball? I dare you. I fricking dare you to link it up, bitch.
I am probably one of the most complimentary people of LSU baseball on this board yet you jump into threads where I post and start boasting of a trophy that I congratulate you for, not despise you for.
Truth be told, you are clinging to shite talk of mine after we beat LSU on a Friday night. shite talk by the way that was smothered in self deprecation seeing as how I did not believe we could win any of the two remaining games.
Bert you might be a bigger doofus than WRT. At least he doesn't run away when being called out.
Posted on 8/23/09 at 10:32 am to woopiginaustin
And he's gone. Casually waiting for the next Petrino thread so he can rehash this same shite again; only to get blasted... again.
Posted on 8/23/09 at 10:50 am to Ross
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You going to respond to the fact that our offense under Petrino > our offense before Petrino?
and what happened after Petrino left Auburn?
New coordinator found ways to get Brown and Williams in game at same time. He also maximized Campbell's abilities.
Matt Flynn beat out Brohm at GB because coaches said he was more NFL ready. Crowton coached Flynn.
Posted on 8/23/09 at 10:54 am to Bert Lyons 716
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and what happened after Petrino left Auburn?
The immediate season after, our offense sucked. There were a few glimpses of offensive success, but consistency wasn't there at all. The combined three points to start off our first two games of the season weren't all that fantastic either.
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New coordinator found ways to get Brown and Williams in game at same time. He also maximized Campbell's abilities.
What the frick? 2002 was Brown's best season with Auburn. Carnell Williams was injured; and Campbell was merely a sophomore at the time. Campbell didn't have a true breakout season until 2004. Is this supposed to be a coherent point against Petrino?
This post was edited on 8/23/09 at 10:58 am
Posted on 8/23/09 at 11:00 am to BT4LSU
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And that's why Spurrier, not Bryant, is the greatest coach in SEC history.
No. Perhaps if he had more than one championship and a couple more decades at Florida you'd have an argument.
Posted on 8/23/09 at 11:18 am to Ross
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What the frick? 2002 was Brown's best season with Auburn. Carnell Williams was injured; and Campbell was merely a sophomore at the time. Campbell didn't have a true breakout season until 2004. Is this supposed to be a coherent point against Petrino?
Petrino's players were a yr older than the previous coordinators too. You can't have it both ways.
Where did Auburn rank in total offense the yr Petrino was there?
Tell me more about Flynn and Brohm.
Still waiting for you to throw me off the board.
This post was edited on 8/23/09 at 11:20 am
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