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re: Best Team or Best Season should be in Playoff?

Posted on 11/10/17 at 12:37 pm to
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 11/10/17 at 12:37 pm to
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Do you not want them to play the 2nd best team for all the marbles or do you want them to play a lessor team. Bama was still the #2 team in the country and earned that rematch.


But it had already been decided on the field. in your argument, from the OP, they should have played OSU

FWIW, I think bama deserved to be in the game.


Posted by Skeeterpop
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Posted on 11/10/17 at 12:37 pm to
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quote: For Example: If the barn takes down UGA Saturday and it was evident from the play on the field the are also the better team. Shouldnt the barn be ranked in front of UGA, regardless of having an additional loss? If UGA fell to 6 and barn rose to 7 in the playoff poll, what are we saying? The dawgs are still better regardless of the head to head and the eye test says differently. That honestly makes no sense. So then it means we are rewarding an inferior team for their whole season and not their actual level of superiority. The good thing with the UGA/Aub example is it will all play out on the field. Even if for some miracle we win vs UGA and Bama


Agreed to some extent. But I am looking way ahead. Then the question is. Is a one loss Bama just as deserving and good enough to be 1 of 4 teams in a playoff when their only loss would be to a team that beat 2 #1s in back to back weeks? We would have to look at all other teams still in contention. But most would have a much worse 1 loss than Bama would in that scenario.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 11/10/17 at 12:38 pm to
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Best team on the field at the end of the season (i.e. NFL)


The length of the playoff structure allows for this
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 11/10/17 at 12:40 pm to
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Then the question is. Is a one loss Bama just as deserving and good enough to be 1 of 4 teams in a playoff when their only loss would be to a team that beat 2 #1s in back to back weeks? We would have to look at all other teams still in contention. But most would have a much worse 1 loss than Bama would in that scenario.



Who would be more fitting? 1 loss bama or 1 loss ND. in your previous scenario its ND since they lost in the beginning of the season
Posted by Skeeterpop
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Posted on 11/10/17 at 12:44 pm to
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quote: Then the question is. Is a one loss Bama just as deserving and good enough to be 1 of 4 teams in a playoff when their only loss would be to a team that beat 2 #1s in back to back weeks? We would have to look at all other teams still in contention. But most would have a much worse 1 loss than Bama would in that scenario. Who would be more fitting? 1 loss bama or 1 loss ND. in your previous scenario its ND since they lost in the beginning of the season


I agree this is the question. My earlier post did not say an earlier loss was better or worse. It only said that it did not hold as much weight vs head to head late.

Is a 1 loss ND better than a 1 loss Bama?

Uga would have two losses with no wins over a top 5 team.

AU would have two losses with 3 wins over a top 5 team.

I would say Bama has an argument that AU is bettet than ND. They obviously were better than UGA by beating them twice. So should Bama then not be considered better than ND?

Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 11/10/17 at 12:51 pm to
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My earlier post did not say an earlier loss was better or worse


You posted about the beter team at the end of the season. that is what I was referring to

Unless there is a larger playoff structure or mini playoffs in conferences, the debate is endless. luckily by the time we get to the second week of December it typically is a little clearer
Posted by DawgsLife
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Posted on 11/10/17 at 12:52 pm to
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What makes a team deserving?

Winning the games.

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Do the best teams deserve it or teams with the best season?

It doesn't matter if you have the best talent in the universe, if you don't win you aren't the best team.

Posted by auzach91
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Posted on 11/10/17 at 12:54 pm to
very true didnt think about that. ok if we beat we would be ranked above yall going into the sec championship i believe
Posted by auzach91
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Posted on 11/10/17 at 12:55 pm to
its impossible to do that. so lsu is better than auburn?no, but in that second half they were. doesnt mean they should be ranked higher.
Posted by Skeeterpop
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Posted on 11/10/17 at 1:01 pm to
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its impossible to do that. so lsu is better than auburn?no, but in that second half they were. doesnt mean they should be ranked higher.


I said win head to head and eye test. You will always have to use a subjective eye test unless we go to division champs only to make playoffs like the NFL does.
Posted by TidalSurge1
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Posted on 11/10/17 at 1:11 pm to
I keep hearing talking heads debating whether the CFP should include the four "best teams" or the four "most deserving teams." It séems to me both of those labels usually fit the four teams that get in pretty well -- IF you consider each team's entire body of work -- which you should, imo.
This post was edited on 11/10/17 at 1:18 pm
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