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re: Best Second Tier WR in the SEC

Posted on 5/30/14 at 12:13 pm to
Posted by chattabama
12essee
Member since Jun 2012
19315 posts
Posted on 5/30/14 at 12:13 pm to
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Make your mind up please and stick to a narrative.


Same to you. I've heard several say that AJ only won all of those games because the talent around him. Now you're trying to say that the talent around him is overrated, so how exactly did he win all of those games?
Posted by NGATiger
Member since Dec 2013
3044 posts
Posted on 5/30/14 at 12:14 pm to
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I'm sure he's a better tight end than the others.



Too bad he was drafted and is working as a QB right now. He probably will get the Blake Bell treatment eventually.

Point being, the draft is far too flawed to be considered the be-all-end-all. Fun to look at, and can be helpful, but flawed.
Posted by chattabama
12essee
Member since Jun 2012
19315 posts
Posted on 5/30/14 at 12:15 pm to
How then do you objectively measure WRs? Stats cannot be compared across the board because of scheme differences.
Posted by NGATiger
Member since Dec 2013
3044 posts
Posted on 5/30/14 at 12:20 pm to
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How then do you objectively measure WRs? Stats cannot be compared across the board because of scheme differences.


It is hard to objectively measure anything. Another point about the NFL draft is that it has a lot to do with needs and what certain teams like in a prospect in terms of skill set.

The average person doesn't necessarily have time for this, but if you wanted a true rank you'd have to rid yourself of bias and just watch film.

So basically I'm saying its impossible unless one guy is just obviously better.
Posted by chattabama
12essee
Member since Jun 2012
19315 posts
Posted on 5/30/14 at 12:21 pm to
So then it's not out of the question that Cooper is at the top of the returning WRs in tSEC.
Posted by NGATiger
Member since Dec 2013
3044 posts
Posted on 5/30/14 at 12:24 pm to
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So then it's not out of the question that Cooper is at the top of the returning WRs in tSEC.


I said Top 5, that includes numbers 1-5

I don't know exactly how I would rank them, but probably Treadwell and North at 1-2.

But no, definitely not out of the question.
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
26725 posts
Posted on 5/30/14 at 12:38 pm to
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I don't know exactly how I would rank them, but probably Treadwell and North at 1-2.



If we can keep it civil, may I as what qualities they possess that convinces you to rank them ahead of Cooper?
Posted by TreyAnastasio
Bitch I'm From Cleveland
Member since Dec 2010
46759 posts
Posted on 5/30/14 at 12:39 pm to
I mean Treadwell may be better, but North is a joke.
Posted by NGATiger
Member since Dec 2013
3044 posts
Posted on 5/30/14 at 12:52 pm to
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we can keep it civil, may I as what qualities they possess that convinces you to rank them ahead of Cooper?


I shouldn't have to answer in regards to Treadwell. He is an all around beast.

North: STRONG hands, big guy, not blazing fast but can get downfield if the DB isn't ready for it, adjusts to the ball as good as anyone (and has to often with who he has throwing to him). Maybe wasn't quite ready to come in and play as a freshman, but it is UT so he had to.
Posted by Scoreboard
Madison, AL
Member since Apr 2012
2011 posts
Posted on 5/30/14 at 12:58 pm to
North is a joke.

This guy has it right - such an astute analysis! UT doesn't have any second tier receivers - they're all fifth or sixth tier at best. Just continue to disregard all our receivers and the entire offense. We suck, and Butch is considering forfeiting every SEC game, especially Vandy!
Posted by NCRebel252
Memphis, TN
Member since Jan 2013
210 posts
Posted on 5/30/14 at 1:00 pm to
DeAndrew White deserves to be in this conversation.
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
26725 posts
Posted on 5/30/14 at 1:04 pm to
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DeAndrew White deserves to be in this conversation.


Solid, but nothing special. Has the athleticism, but hasn't put it together. Maybe this year, but even then there won't be enough touches or him to prove it.
Posted by VFL1800FPD
Nashville, TN
Member since Aug 2012
9056 posts
Posted on 5/30/14 at 1:14 pm to
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but North is a joke.




he was a true freshman last year and:






terrible throw, but look at that concentration to make the catch



Photo of the year:



Plus we got Josh Malone (UGA fans you know what i'm talking about), Von Pearson (one of his catches in spring practice made ESPN top 10), and Pig Howard (solid). And not to mention Croom, the biggest WR in the SEC @ 6'5" 235.

We stacked
This post was edited on 5/30/14 at 1:19 pm
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28286 posts
Posted on 5/30/14 at 1:20 pm to
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Draft pick is the most objective way to rank them because there is no homerism involved.


Tim Tebow and Tim Couch agree with you.


......on the flip side, Tom Brady says
This post was edited on 5/30/14 at 1:23 pm
Posted by Prettyboy Floyd
Pensacola, Florida
Member since Dec 2013
15660 posts
Posted on 5/30/14 at 1:21 pm to
I still think his foot never had turf by the time he corralled that catch vs Georgia. It was incredibly close but to me it looked like his feet were off the ground.
Posted by VFL1800FPD
Nashville, TN
Member since Aug 2012
9056 posts
Posted on 5/30/14 at 1:26 pm to
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I still think his foot never had turf by the time he corralled that catch vs Georgia. It was incredibly close but to me it looked like his feet were off the ground


me, too brother. But hey, I didn't think Vandy got that fourth down conversion in our game, but they called it. Life sucks. At least ya'll still won your game
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28286 posts
Posted on 5/30/14 at 1:28 pm to
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I still think his foot never had turf by the time he corralled that catch vs Georgia. It was incredibly close but to me it looked like his feet were off the ground.


First time I have seen that catch. It was a great catch, but after watching it several times.....I think his feet were off the ground when he gained control. Was it called a TD after replay?
Posted by VFL1800FPD
Nashville, TN
Member since Aug 2012
9056 posts
Posted on 5/30/14 at 1:30 pm to
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Was it called a TD after replay?


yep

i was sitting right there, amazing
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28286 posts
Posted on 5/30/14 at 1:30 pm to
You have to love SEC officiating.
Posted by Wallacewade04
Valhalla
Member since Dec 2011
2780 posts
Posted on 5/30/14 at 1:46 pm to
OJ Howard isn't on anyones tier 1 list and he looks to have a big year for us
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