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re: Best Running Back in SEC History?

Posted on 5/28/22 at 4:49 pm to
Posted by ClaimToFame
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Posted on 5/28/22 at 4:49 pm to
During Derrick Henry's time at Alabama, Alabama played:
Colorado State
Georgia State
Chattanooga
Florida Atlantic
Southern Miss
Western Carolina
Middle Tennessee St
Louisiana Monroe
Charleston Southern

Plenty of games to pad those stats!


Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
30691 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 4:51 pm to
quote:

During Derrick Henry's time at Alabama, Alabama played:
Colorado State
Georgia State
Chattanooga
Florida Atlantic
Southern Miss
Western Carolina
Middle Tennessee St
Louisiana Monroe
Charleston Southern

Plenty of games to pad those stats!



I must admit that Henry being able to use 3 years worth of stats for his single season rushing record is a bit unfair.

But frick it, I'll allow it.
Posted by ClaimToFame
Member since Nov 2017
1754 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 4:57 pm to
You're the one who keeps bringing up what Henry has done in the NFL, yet you only want to look at one college season.
Posted by ClaimToFame
Member since Nov 2017
1754 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 5:00 pm to
But ok, I'll play your game. In 2015, Henry padded his stats against:
Middle Tennessee St
Louisiana Monroe
Charleston Southern

Now do the same thing with Herschel.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
68624 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 5:01 pm to
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Lok if you are too young to know the difference in the game sI am not hear to school you. Do just a little research. Start with looking at time teams threw the ball compared to how often the ran the ball and you will see a clear pattern.


I’d prob start just comparing Herschel to other RBs the seasons he played and the same for Henry. Henry didn’t even lead the SEC in ypg in 2015.
Posted by ClaimToFame
Member since Nov 2017
1754 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 5:02 pm to
And no where in the title of this thread does it say "single season rushing record".
Posted by YHCDawg
Winder, GA
Member since Aug 2004
568 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 5:04 pm to
382
990
The first two years rushing totals for Henry.

No greatest RB can truly call himself that with those totals.

1616
1891
1752

Herschel put numbers up for three years, with everybody in the stadium knowing he was getting the ball.
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
19812 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 5:09 pm to
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But ok, I'll play your game. In 2015, Henry padded his stats against:
Middle Tennessee St
Louisiana Monroe
Charleston Southern

Averaged 148 yards a game across all 15 that season... averaged 72 yards in those 3. I'm not really sure that's how you pad stats.
Posted by Marktastic86
Pismo Beach, CA
Member since Dec 2020
18039 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 5:12 pm to
quote:

382
990
The first two years rushing totals for Henry.

No greatest RB can truly call himself that with those totals.

1616
1891
1752

Herschel put numbers up for three years, with everybody in the stadium knowing he was getting the ball.


Henry was like 4th string that first season and a backup his second season when the offense was centered around a Heisman candidate WR in Amari Cooper.

No surprise that the year they finally tailor the offensive attack towards him he wins the Heisman while breaking SEC records. Also teams knew he was getting the ball in 2015 and he still ran over everybody.
Posted by ClaimToFame
Member since Nov 2017
1754 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 5:13 pm to
And Herschel averaged 172 rushing yards per game in 1981, more than 148.
Posted by Pulpwood Patterson
Member since Dec 2017
1799 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 5:23 pm to
Nobody outside of Alabama fans think Henry is the best SEC RB of all time. Herschel rushed for more yards in his career, was a 3 year starter, was bigger than the LB of his day, at best Henry was as big as linebackers in his era, Walker ran a faster 40, 35 years before Henry. Hershel’s not only the best back in SEC history, many feel he’s the best player in CFB history. Walker was running against 9 & 10 man boxes, against P5 teams every week. The only non P5 Teams UGA played from 80-82 were Temple and Memphis. Georgia routinely had 1 WR sets. Walker was Georgias offense. Walker also played in an era when you could put a RB in a coma and not draw a personal foul penalty. Henry wasn’t a starter his Freshman season and rushed for 300 some odd yards. He ran for less than 1000 yards as a sophomore. Walker rushed for 1600, 1890, & 1750 yards in an 11 game season.

I’m a Henry fan, but cmon, no.
Posted by YHCDawg
Winder, GA
Member since Aug 2004
568 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 5:29 pm to
Nobody is denying Henry had a great year. But calling him the greatest RB in SEC history is too far, when he had two other years that were very ordinary in comparison. Herschel was THE focus for three years and he withstood the pressure, never losing an SEC game.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
30691 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 5:31 pm to
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Nobody outside of Alabama fans think Henry is the best SEC RB of all time. Herschel rushed for more yards in his career, was a 3 year starter, was bigger than the LB of his day, at best Henry was as big as linebackers in his era, Walker ran a faster 40, 35 years before Henry. Hershel’s not only the best back in SEC history, many feel he’s the best player in CFB history. Walker was running against 9 & 10 man boxes, against P5 teams every week. The only non P5 Teams UGA played from 80-82 were Temple and Memphis. Georgia routinely had 1 WR sets. Walker was Georgias offense. Walker also played in an era when you could put a RB in a coma and not draw a personal foul penalty. Henry wasn’t a starter his Freshman season and rushed for 300 some odd yards. He ran for less than 1000 yards as a sophomore. Walker rushed for 1600, 1890, & 1750 yards in an 11 game season.

I’m a Henry fan, but cmon, no.


I can't really take people who use "P5" as a metric of team strength seriously.
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
Gods country
Member since Sep 2016
17165 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 5:34 pm to
Do you guys see what we’ve done letting these assholes in
Posted by ClaimToFame
Member since Nov 2017
1754 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 5:35 pm to
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I believe Alabama has always played a weak non-conference schedule

FIFY
Posted by Marktastic86
Pismo Beach, CA
Member since Dec 2020
18039 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 5:47 pm to
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Nobody is denying Henry had a great year. But calling him the greatest RB in SEC history is too far


When you look at his NFL career and how he's running over professional defenders the same way he did in college, I think the argument could be made for Henry to possibly be the greatest running back to ever come through the SEC.

If you want to say Herschel had the best career, not many could argue. Credit where it's due in both cases. But Henry has been a monster since high school, and his consistency at every level sets him apart from everyone else in my opinion.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
68624 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 5:48 pm to
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When you look at his NFL career

Is irrelevant
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
68624 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 5:49 pm to
quote:

Nobody outside of Alabama fans think Henry is the best SEC RB

Very true, and most Alabama fans don’t either
Posted by Nitro Express
Gulf Coast
Member since Jul 2018
17093 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 5:50 pm to
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Think a lot of teams were loading up the box?


Yes. All season long.
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
20290 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 5:57 pm to
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Meanwhile Derrick Henry holds the SEC rushing record, did it on fewer attempts, did it against better competition and lead his team to a national championship.

Henry is the best RB in modern SEC history, accounting for offensive changes to the game.

Herschel and Bo did it in run heavy, play action offenses with defenses built to stop the run first.

I think Henry's size, speed and power would have had him do well in the 80s and 90s, too. But, different eras and styles make it an impossible conversation to look at objectively.
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