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Posted on 5/28/22 at 3:24 pm to MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Jacob Hester.
Posted on 5/28/22 at 3:24 pm to MetroAtlantaGatorFan
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In the title game against Clemson, Coker threw for 335 yards.
In the Sugar Bowl against ND, Buck Belue threw for 7 yards.
Thank you, sir. Simple concepts seem to be alluding him. He thinks you can load up the box against the run when a QB throws the ball 25-30 times a game.
Posted on 5/28/22 at 3:28 pm to DawgsLife
I saw Herschel carry his team in the national title game. Separated shoulder I think in the 2nd quarter, QB couldn’t complete a pass.
Everyone on the field and watching at home knew he was going to have to win the game single handedly, and he did.
When add that to his extremely impressive stats he stands alone.
Everyone on the field and watching at home knew he was going to have to win the game single handedly, and he did.
When add that to his extremely impressive stats he stands alone.
Posted on 5/28/22 at 3:30 pm to DawgsLife
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No. Our defense was really good. Lindsey Scott was a very good WR. But all you have to do is look at Georgia's statistics to see what other teams had to expect.
Buck Belue threw the ball 156 times all year. He averaged 14 passes a game.
Herschel ran the ball 274 times all year for an average of 24.9 times a game. (Herschel also caught some passes on the year. (7 I think)
So, you tell me. If you were a Defensive Coordinator would you prepare to stop the pass or the run?
Now I gave you our stats.....take the QBs when Derrick Henry played and tell me how many passes Alabama attempted per game. Alabama had a much more balanced offenses I would think, so defenses had to play you more honestly.
And you also recruited lineman who were more focused on the run etc. So since we're making dumb excuses at this point, does Derrick Henry running behind a line that was balanced instead of a line suited solely for the run mean he's better?
70% of Henry's yards were after contact.
Alabama passing game in 2015 was largely based on the play action(wonder why), and Alabama is generally based around 60% run plays overall. If you want to compare just the 2 players, it was around 50%.
But what does any of this really matter when you are playing easy teams every week, while the other guy faced what you consider to be "9 ranked teams".
Posted on 5/28/22 at 3:30 pm to llfshoals
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I saw Herschel carry his team in the national title game.
No you didn't.
You say him play #7 Notre Dame in the Sugar Bowl.
Posted on 5/28/22 at 3:38 pm to 3down10
He would also not play against 10 man boxes because his teams would at least have the threat of passing in a more modern offense.
Posted on 5/28/22 at 3:44 pm to YHCDawg
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He would also not play against 10 man boxes because his teams would at least have the threat of passing in a more modern offense.
Here's 8 in the box. If a team has 10 in the box against you, then it's because they are matching your formation.
Posted on 5/28/22 at 3:54 pm to llfshoals
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Separated shoulder I think in the 2nd quarter, QB couldn’t complete a pass.
Belue was average if we want to be generous. Part of that was the sytem we ran and the offensive style that was prevalent in college football. Part of that was his physical shortcomings. I think he red defenses well and was fairly accurate, but not a deep ball threat by any measure.
I might be mistaken, but I think Herschel got hurt in the first quarter, and I want to say on the second series? (I could be wrong being old and it being so long ago.
quote:Every word of this is true. Everybody in the world knew he was getting the football.
veryone on the field and watching at home knew he was going to have to win the game single handedly, and he did.
I don't want Alabama fans to misunderstand me. Derrick Henry was/is a great back. A phenomenal back. I absolutely do not mean to downgrade him or his abilities....at ALL.
Posted on 5/28/22 at 3:55 pm to 3down10
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Here's 8 in the box. If a team has 10 in the box against you, then it's because they are matching your formation.
Okay dude. You win. Herschel Walker can't hold a candle to Derrick Henry.
Posted on 5/28/22 at 4:02 pm to 3down10
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No you didn't.
You say him play #7 Notre Dame in the Sugar Bowl.
I can't answer for him but I am 65. I saw the game on television. You can find the game on youtube. (You used to could) Remember he separated his shoulder on the second series or so, so he played the game with a separated shoulder. (I think they popped it back in, but if you know anything about separated shoulders, you would know it still hurts like the dickens and many players would have come out of the game and sat the rest of the game)
Posted on 5/28/22 at 4:04 pm to GAT BoilerPickle Doc
Biotch, please. Herschel Walker did more in 3 years than most of them on your list did in 4.
This post was edited on 5/28/22 at 4:09 pm
Posted on 5/28/22 at 4:06 pm to DawgsLife
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Okay dude. You win. Herschel Walker can't hold a candle to Derrick Henry.
Derrick Henry is doing the same shite in the NFL also. Only 8 running backs have ever rushed for more than 2000 yards in a single season, and he is one of them.
Then he's doing stuff like this:
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Most Rush Yards over 40-game stretch NFL History:
Henry 4,792 (2018-21)
Jim Brown 4,759 (1963-65)
O.J. Simpson 4,739 (1972-75)
Terrell Davis 4,597 (1996-98)
Eric Dickerson 4,594 (1984-86)
And stacked boxes:
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Derrick Henry faced a stacked box (8+ defenders) on 16 of his 29 carries (55%), scoring 2 of his 3 TD vs a stacked box.
Henry leads the NFL in rush TD vs stacked boxes for the third consecutive season.
?? 2019: 12 (1st)
?? 2020: 10 (T-1st)
?? 2021: 5 (1st)
He will likely go down as one of the best running backs in history, not just the SEC.
Posted on 5/28/22 at 4:08 pm to 3down10
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No you didnt
150 yards rushing and 2 TDs with a separated shoulder. Yes, we did.
Posted on 5/28/22 at 4:08 pm to 3down10
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Here's 8 in the box. If a team has 10 in the box against you, then it's because they are matching your formation.
That's not 8 in the box. We had two CBs and two safeties and neither safety was playing in the box. (one safety is split wide with a receiver) Nobody was split wide left so our second CB was playing back watching for a safety valve receiver and the second safety was playing back.Posted on 5/28/22 at 4:09 pm to DawgsLife
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I can't answer for him but I am 65. I saw the game on television. You can find the game on youtube. (You used to could) Remember he separated his shoulder on the second series or so, so he played the game with a separated shoulder. (I think they popped it back in, but if you know anything about separated shoulders, you would know it still hurts like the dickens and many players would have come out of the game and sat the rest of the game)
Wasn't a national title game is all I was saying. You played the #7 team. If Notre Dame wins, they aren't national champions.
Getting to the Sugar Bowl was the goal and basically a requirement to win a national championship back then, but it was pure luck to get #1 vs #2 in it.
Posted on 5/28/22 at 4:11 pm to 3down10
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Derrick Henry is doing the same shite in the NFL also.
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Best Running Back in SEC History?
I don't care what he is doing in the NFL. The thread says SEC.
Look. You can believe what you want, ok? I bet I can find 10 non Georgia fans that says Herschel was a better back than Derrick Henry. You would be hard pressed to find 10 non Alabama fans that says Henry was the greatest.
Posted on 5/28/22 at 4:12 pm to DawgsLife
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(I think they popped it back in, but if you know anything about separated shoulders, you would know it still hurts like the dickens and many players would have come out of the game and sat the rest of the game)
Wow, 65 years old and you still didn’t forget to add the close parentheses at the end - impressive!
Posted on 5/28/22 at 4:14 pm to UnderDog68
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150 yards rushing and 2 TDs with a separated shoulder. Yes, we did.
They did not have a national championship game in 1980. You played #7 Notre Dame in the Sugar Bowl.
You guys are only calling it that to give the illusion you played the #2 team, you did not.
Notre Dame finished #9 and was the only ranked team you beat all year.
Posted on 5/28/22 at 4:16 pm to 3down10
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Wasn't a national title game is all I was saying.
Did it determine the National Championship? That's all we are saying. Quit being so obtuse.
quote:And yet we won the game and were the National Champions. had we lost we would not have been champions.
If Notre Dame wins, they aren't national champions.
quote:Not really. There were several bowls that determined the champions. The Cotton Bow did. The Rose Bowl did. The Orange Bowl did. But that year, because we were ranked #1 in the country going into bowl season it made the Sugar Bowl that much more important. Had welos, you are correct, that a different Bowl would have determined the champion....so again. There was not designated bowl that determined the champion, but that year the Sugar bow hosted the team that won the National Championship.
Getting to the Sugar Bowl was the goal and basically a requirement to win a national championship back then,
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