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re: Bennet's arm strength?

Posted on 3/6/23 at 10:23 am to
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 3/6/23 at 10:23 am to
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And made every excuse you could find for why he was a bust at UF.


Not really, just one, which I think was proved out at the combine.

When I start making threads proactively defending the honor of AR then I'll be in the same boat as OP.
Posted by Yewkindewit
Near Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Apr 2012
21577 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 10:34 am to
TrussvilleTide jelly of all things Jawjuh. Bryce wishes he had the stremf of Stetson’s arm.
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
7610 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 10:34 am to
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oes a team winning automatically mean a specific player played well?


No, but winning the MVP award for a game in which your team won the national championship DOES mean you played well in that game and that it was the most important game of the year.

Bennett did that twice.
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
14753 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 10:37 am to
Is anyone arguing Bennett wasn't a successful college QB?
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
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Posted on 3/6/23 at 10:41 am to
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Take a few years ago with Amari Cooper and the WR from West Virginia Kevin White. White was a "physical freak show" and many of these "experts" predicted he would have more success than Cooper after a big combine. Cooper is still playing at a high level and White is on a practice squad somewhere and never had any of the success predicted of him.

So, it's hard to think Bennett will ever do anything in the league aside from being a professional backup like AJ.


Umm... your example doesn't fit your conclusion.

Let's take Cooper and White and substitute Bennett and Richardson.

Bennett is Cooper. Productive college performer with very good but not exceptional combine results. Bennett's were unexpected... he was supposed to have sub-par results. So him being taller, having a stronger arm at the combine is a surprise, but he's still an incredibly productive college player with solid combine numbers, just like Cooper.

Richardson is White. Both were not incredible performers in college but put up exceptional combine results. Athleticism without results.

So your conclusion should be that Bennett is set up to have a longer pro career. Instead for some reason you concluded the opposite.

Your logic is flawed.
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
7610 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 10:46 am to
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Is anyone arguing Bennett wasn't a successful college QB?


It seems so.

Many people are claiming that based on what Bennett did in college, he's going to be a failure as a pro, even with solid combine numbers.

But that implies that he didn't do well in college... which is silly because he obviously did pretty well, winning two national titles and being the MVP of two championship games and two semi-final games.

It's an odd sort of needle they're trying to thread. Basically it's something like this.

- When he played in college, he looked like someone who wouldn't have good combine numbers and was not going to be able to physically cut it in the NFL.

- Now that he has good physical numbers at the combine, I want to claim that what he seemed like physically is his "true" physical profile and that is what his "real" measurables will be in the NFL... not the actual MEASURED numbers. And based on that I'm going to disregard his college performance since I don't have actual measured numbers to use to disregard it.

They are basically wanting to claim that "observed measurables" are why he'll fail... rather than actual measurables or actual results.

Very small needle hole to thread.
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 3/6/23 at 10:48 am to
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It seems so.

Many people are claiming that based on what Bennett did in college, he's going to be a failure as a pro,


Really? Who is saying that, "based on what Bennett did in college" he will be a failure?
Posted by Vulcan Materials
Member since May 2022
1291 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 10:50 am to
Lol Bennett is gonna have 3 broken limbs by week 17 of his first year.
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
14753 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 10:50 am to
He's inarguably shorter than most top QB picks. You can't argue otherwise.

He threw hard. Unless I missed it, that was his big combine performance.

He'll get drafted, that's not even in question. The real question is what role he'll be asked to fulfill.
Posted by TrussvilleTide
The Endless Void
Member since Sep 2021
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Posted on 3/6/23 at 10:52 am to
You can't be honest or dishonest about an opinion, its an opinion

Posted by TrussvilleTide
The Endless Void
Member since Sep 2021
4069 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 10:55 am to
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- Now that he has good physical numbers at the combine


He ran a decent 40 which he was always going to do. What are the other decent numbers?

I'm sure you're gonna say height, but wasn't he always listed around that? People memeing online that hes 5'6" doesn't mean people thought he would actually be 5'6".
Posted by TrussvilleTide
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Member since Sep 2021
4069 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 10:56 am to
LSU fans dickriding another school to take a jab at Bama, tale as old as time, song as old as rhyme
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
14753 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 10:56 am to
I think he had high velocity on his passes. A good metric but not make-or-break.

Unless I missed something, nothing was shocking about his combine. He did well enough. He'll get a shot, but it won't be the kind of opportunity the top QBs will be granted.
Posted by IamNotaRobot
OKC
Member since Nov 2021
1494 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 11:00 am to
He has to play to break bones. Unless he gets smoked holding the clipboard on the sidelines, he won’t break anything at any point during the season.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
25794 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 11:03 am to
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He ran a decent 40 which he was always going to do. What are the other decent numbers?


20 yard shuttle, highest by a QB and 9th overall out of over 90 participants.

Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
39374 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 11:04 am to
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He ran a decent 40 which he was always going to do. What are the other decent numbers?


Despite winning so many MVP awards, people weren’t expecting over 5’11 height, 4.6 speed, an elite shirt shuttle, strong velocity arm, and very good deep ball.
Posted by TrussvilleTide
The Endless Void
Member since Sep 2021
4069 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 11:11 am to
Oh wow, hopefully your NFL team drafts him then
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
14753 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 11:14 am to
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20 yard shuttle


Have most of the top QBs even done this one? I mean
Posted by TrussvilleTide
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Member since Sep 2021
4069 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 11:16 am to
Yeah that’s not really a key predictor of QB success lol
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
20893 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 11:19 am to
Against air on 1 type of throw. You will also Fing he was wildly inconsistent throughout the throwing session. And Levi’s was the only P5 guy throwing.
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