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re: BCS Championships not withstanding, is there any other measure of dominance?

Posted on 5/19/13 at 2:08 pm to
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 5/19/13 at 2:08 pm to
Wow, that is a bad bowl record...
Posted by Buckeye06
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Posted on 5/19/13 at 2:08 pm to
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Haters gonna hate. I think you are right.

The SEC usually has 2 BCS teams so the remaining bowls start with pick 3.

So Cap 1 usually gets #3 SEC team versus Big 10 #2.

It glides down from there.
#4 SEC plays #2 B12 in Cotton
#5 SEC plays #3 B10 in OB
#6 SEC plays #2 ACC in CFB

and so on and so forth.


Huge misconception here. The B1G has had more BCS appearances than the SEC I'm pretty sure, although it's close.

The BIG 3 and 4 and the Big 12 2 or 3 usually play the SEC 3,4, and 5
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Posted on 5/19/13 at 2:09 pm to
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I didn't realize ... that LSU is 1 win over .500 in bowl games.

Well thank you for pointing that out.
Posted by dallasga6
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Posted on 5/19/13 at 2:09 pm to
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10-11 in the Chick-fil-A Bowl since '93 when that series started. (I did not realize that we had a losing record in that bowl until just now.)

The CFA has usually been a match-up of the #2 ACC team vs the #4-5 SEC team...
This post was edited on 5/19/13 at 2:10 pm
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 5/19/13 at 2:10 pm to
Sorry, I was somewhat surprised is all.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
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Posted on 5/19/13 at 2:10 pm to
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Huge misconception here. The B1G has had more BCS appearances than the SEC I'm pretty sure, although it's close.

The BIG 3 and 4 and the Big 12 2 or 3 usually play the SEC 3,4, and 5


The Big Ten has 26 appearances and the SEC has 25.

However, the SEC is 17-8 and the Big Ten is 12-14. In fact, Ohio State has the only winning record in BCS bowls for the Big Ten.
This post was edited on 5/19/13 at 2:14 pm
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 5/19/13 at 2:11 pm to
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Here ya go


When compared to the previous all-time stats, then it would appear that expansion has been good to the SEC in terms of competitiveness.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 5/19/13 at 2:12 pm to
Big 10 has more by a game maybe? Although the SEC has a far better winning percentage.


quote:

Conference Won Lost Percentage
Mountain West 3 1 .750
Southeastern 17 8 .680
Western Athl 2 1 .667
Pacific-12 13 7 .650
Big East 8 7 .533
Big Ten 12 14 .461
Big 12 9 11 .450
Atlantic Coast 3 13 .187
Independents 0 4 .000
This post was edited on 5/19/13 at 2:17 pm
Posted by Alahunter
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Posted on 5/19/13 at 2:13 pm to
MOST APPEARANCES, BCS GAMES
School Appearances

Ohio State 9
Oklahoma 8
Florida 7
Florida State 7
Southern California 7
Virginia Tech 6
Alabama 5
LSU 5
Michigan 5
Oregon 5
Wisconsin 5
Miami (FL) 4
Texas 4
Notre Dame 4

HIGHEST WINNING PERCENTAGE BY CONFERENCE
Conference Won Lost Percentage

Mountain West 3 1 .750
Southeastern 17 8 .680
Western Athletic 2 1 .667
Pacific-12 13 7 .650
Big East 8 7 .533
Big Ten 12 14 .461
Big 12 9 11 .450
Atlantic Coast 3 13 .187

Independents 0 4 .000
This post was edited on 5/19/13 at 2:15 pm
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Posted on 5/19/13 at 2:14 pm to
Not me but I follow the team. Coach Dinardo winning 3 in a row should get a lot of credit amongst the faithful.
Posted by Buckeye06
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Posted on 5/19/13 at 2:15 pm to
quote:

Huge misconception here. The B1G has had more BCS appearances than the SEC I'm pretty sure, although it's close.

The BIG 3 and 4 and the Big 12 2 or 3 usually play the SEC 3,4, and 5



The Big Ten has 26 appearances and the SEC has 25.

However, the SEC is 17-8 and the Big Ten is 12-14. In fact, Ohio State has the only winning record in BCS bowls for the Big Ten.


I was only pointing out that usually the teams in the Cap1 and Outback are "evenly" matched 2 v 2 or 3 v 3 or whatever.

Yes I fully know the B1G isn't as good, but they bring in the most money so they get the most bids often
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
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Posted on 5/19/13 at 2:18 pm to
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but they bring in the most money so they get the most bids often



This "most money" has led to exactly one more BCS bid. Okay.
This post was edited on 5/19/13 at 2:19 pm
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 5/19/13 at 2:19 pm to
Posted by Alahunter
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Posted on 5/19/13 at 2:19 pm to
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I was only pointing out that usually the teams in the Cap1 and Outback are "evenly" matched 2 v 2 or 3 v 3 or whatever.


Gator Bowl SEC #6 Big Ten #4/5

AutoZone Liberty Bowl C-USA #1 SEC #7/8

Chick-fil-A Bowl ACC #2 SEC #5

Music City Bowl ACC #6 SEC #7/8

BBVA Compass Bowl Big East #5 SEC #9

And this one, is usually SEC 4 or so, since they've been getting so many BCS bowls and lower teams have gotten to go:

Capital One Bowl Big Ten #2 SEC #2

ditto this one

Outback Bowl Big Ten #3 SEC #3/4
Posted by Buckeye06
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Posted on 5/19/13 at 2:21 pm to
quote:

but they bring in the most money so they get the most bids often



This "most money" has led to exactly one more BCS bid. Okay.



You look quite butthurt since I was clarifying something else.

It is a FACT that the B1G has more BCS bids and a FACT that they bring in the most money

It is also a FACT they aren't as good in football as the SEC
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
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Posted on 5/19/13 at 2:21 pm to
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Capital One Bowl Big Ten #2 SEC #2



We finished 3rd in the West in 2010, got the co-Champion of the Big Ten and beat them 49-7. They had -70 yards of rushing at one point. We knocked out three QBs.
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Posted on 5/19/13 at 2:22 pm to
And that was a travesty for BSU...very sad for CFB, imo.
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...if you're talking about Michigan/VaTech. BSU/Baylor would have been great.
This post was edited on 5/19/13 at 2:24 pm
Posted by CNB
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Posted on 5/19/13 at 2:24 pm to
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All time bowl records with min 20 bowls played


We don't even meet the requirement.


Man our history fricking sucks.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 5/19/13 at 2:26 pm to
I believe his point is that a one game advantage is hardly a gap to make such a distinction over, that you are trying to make.

It looks as if you are trying too hard is all.
This post was edited on 5/19/13 at 2:27 pm
Posted by Buckeye06
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Posted on 5/19/13 at 2:27 pm to
quote:

Haters gonna hate. I think you are right.

The SEC usually has 2 BCS teams so the remaining bowls start with pick 3.

So Cap 1 usually gets #3 SEC team versus Big 10 #2.

It glides down from there.
#4 SEC plays #2 B12 in Cotton
#5 SEC plays #3 B10 in OB
#6 SEC plays #2 ACC in CFB

and so on and so forth.


I was clarifying this, which is incorrect. That was the fact I used to clarify it
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