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re: Bateman and Barnett on their reason for transferring from bama

Posted on 8/8/17 at 10:44 am to
Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 10:44 am to
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How about a Coach quitting on a player after the third series


It's almost like you aren't aware that Barnett had been on campus for 2 years of fall practice and 2 years spring practices. He'd seen the kid play in scrimmages a ton. He gave him an opportunity to prove himself and Blake looked scared of the moment.

I wish him success at ASU and in life, but he was given a chance at Bama and didn't take advantage of it.
Posted by jatebe
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 10:47 am to
Terry Bowden quit on Auburn after 6 weeks/
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 10:51 am to
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When was the last time a coach broke his commitment to a school in the fourth week of the season?

There's usually not any open vacancies in the 4th week of the season. Coaches also don't have to worry about sitting out a year of they want to change jobs.
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 10:54 am to
Only one that irks me is Barnett. Bateman at least stuck around for the season, as did Cornwell (who is going to be the Nevada starter). Can't get too mad, have the offensive player of the year returning, with tua as a backup.
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 10:57 am to
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It's just not. I don't know where you keep coming up with this stuff. His 1st year he was on the verge of taking the job until the scrimmages and then last year they were all but begging him to until his threw what, 6 picks, 3 of which were returned for TDs or something like that?


This is the truth. Barnett sucked it up in the scrimmages.
This post was edited on 8/8/17 at 10:58 am
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 11:00 am to
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I think Barnett definitely would have had a role especially late in the season when Hurts was having trouble throwing the ball. He jumped the gun by quitting when he did. Hurts outplayed Barnett in the USC game but he was still a true freshman and he was sure to make mistakes that would have provided more opportunities.



I think that Barnett would have crumbled under the kind of pressure and pass rushes that Jalen faced, especially late in the season. Would have been real ugly. Many, many sacks.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 11:09 am to
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It's almost like you aren't aware that Barnett had been on campus for 2 years of fall practice and 2 years spring practices. He'd seen the kid play in scrimmages a ton. He gave him an opportunity to prove himself and Blake looked scared of the moment.


So you are saying, after two years a kid is given two series to prove himself ? I guess it is time to make room for another and excel the process. That is fine, but don't throw stuff at him as he is heading out the door.
Posted by jatebe
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 11:11 am to
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I think that Barnett would have crumbled under the kind of pressure and pass rushes that Jalen faced, especially late in the season. Would have been real ugly. Many, many sacks.
I feel the same. I was Team Barnett, but after seeing how scared he seemed in the USC game, I knew he couldn't last as a qb on a big power 5 team.
Posted by jatebe
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 11:13 am to
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Irons Puppet

Sorry, you didn't get your wish for Bama to have a "deer-in-the-headlight" quarterback.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 11:19 am to
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Irons Puppet
Sorry, you didn't get your wish for Bama to have a "deer-in-the-headlight" quarterback.



This issue isn't why he was replaced, but how he was treated by "everyone" when he decided to transfer. The excuses I read on this post, typifies that culture.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105487 posts
Posted on 8/8/17 at 11:20 am to
Not sure why you would engage Irons on an Alabama topic. He's literally, in the history of this board, never entered a thread regarding Alabama and posted a single positive or neutral thing. Whether it's academics, football, hacky sack, etc. He's incapable. He's also incapable of staying away.
This post was edited on 8/8/17 at 11:21 am
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
55787 posts
Posted on 8/8/17 at 11:21 am to
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This issue isn't why he was replaced, but how he was treated by "everyone" when he decided to transfer. The excuses I read on this post, typifies that culture.



I was actually one of the ones that took up for him when he transferred, but he has made several comments since then that makes him come across as an entitled douche.
Posted by 14&Counting
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2012
41304 posts
Posted on 8/8/17 at 11:22 am to
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That is fine, but don't throw stuff at him as he is heading out the door.


Maybe you should read the comments on the Auburn board regarding their history with recent QB's.
Posted by Huddie Leadbetter
Member since May 2016
3822 posts
Posted on 8/8/17 at 11:23 am to
This article pretty much sums up Barnett's first 2 years at Alabama.

This is a report coming into 2016 scrimmage. There is not a single word about Barnett having a history of turnovers in practice, but there is a note that he needs to gain weight, which we heard often for the 2 years he was at Alabama. For those slow on the uptake, the "prodigy" of the 3 qbs, in the article, was referring to Barnett

There is also this...

"[b]Needing to gain some weight (he’s still listed as 6’5”, 200 lbs) and experience, Alabama had Barnett redshirt and face its top-notch defense every day with the scout team last year. That gave the Californian not only a chance to acclimate but also a physical taste, as players such as defensive lineman A’Shawn Robinson weren’t exactly known for their restraint.

“Blake had some ups and downs last year with some injuries and illness and things that probably held him back a little bit,” head coach Nick Saban said. “So we’re all kind of anxious to see how he matures and how he does this spring as well.”

Breaking Down Alabama's QB Battle Leading into Tide's 1st Spring Scrimmage

It was widely reported that Barnett had a couple of bad scrimmages in fall camp last year, but not in the previous 2 years he'd been there. He was, as noted in the article..."The Prodigy".

It's neither here not there, now, and Hurts again has a chance to prove himself. Hopefully, he'll have improved reading defenses before and after the snap, cut down on his turnovers in real live games, and developed a passing game beyond the line of scrimmage. If he can't manage these things, I suppose Tagovailoa will get a real chance to prove he's better.
This post was edited on 8/8/17 at 11:25 am
Posted by jatebe
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 11:24 am to
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This issue isn't why he was replaced, but how he was treated by "everyone" when he decided to transfer. The excuses I read on this post, typifies that culture.
Come on, admit it. You don't know Barnett from Jack Squat. You don't care how well he plays at his new school.

You were just disappointed that Bama wasn't stuck with a bad QB, that would have given Auburn a better chance to beat them.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105487 posts
Posted on 8/8/17 at 11:24 am to
He's a bot. He sees Alabama and he immediately figures out what the negative opinion on the topic is, and he takes that side.

It's science at this point.
Posted by 14&Counting
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2012
41304 posts
Posted on 8/8/17 at 11:26 am to
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players such as defensive lineman A’Shawn Robinson weren’t exactly known for their restraint.


That would explain the deer in the headlights look.

Posted by Huddie Leadbetter
Member since May 2016
3822 posts
Posted on 8/8/17 at 11:28 am to
And yet, in the 3 games Barnett played in last year, he didn't turn it over a single time, unlike Hurts.

This post was edited on 8/8/17 at 11:32 am
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 8/8/17 at 11:29 am to
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Not sure why you would engage Irons on an Alabama topic. He's literally, in the history of this board, never entered a thread regarding Alabama and posted a single positive or neutral thing. Whether it's academics, football, hacky sack, etc. He's incapable. He's also incapable of staying away.



And you are one of the biggest Bama Apologist regardless of their behavior. Were you not one of the posters who attacked him as a quitter ? I guess moral backbone and fan support do not mix. Not in the Bama World by some on here.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
55787 posts
Posted on 8/8/17 at 11:29 am to
I kind of agree with you Huddie about reports leading up to fall scrimmages last year. Then throughout fall scrimmages, the one word most associated with his name was "turnovers."
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