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re: Bama's "protest march"
Posted on 8/29/20 at 10:34 am to Chuck Barris
Posted on 8/29/20 at 10:34 am to Chuck Barris
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Your own selective ignorance?
Police shooting of Daniel Shaver
Police shooting of Zachary Hammond
Nope. There's a great divide between what's reported on about "police brutality" between white folks and black folks. Everyone knows it, and so do you.
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Posted on 8/29/20 at 10:34 am to Chuck Barris
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Let's just be honest: this protest could be conducted on the player's own time by a collection of people who only have 4.0 GPA's and thousands of hours of community service and have each personally donated a kidney to save the life of a military combat veteran and be led by a combination of of Tom Hanks, Mr. Rogers, and the second coming of Jesus Christ himself, and conservatives would still shite on it because they disagree with the basic premise of the march. Their "suggestions" and "concerns" don't matter any more than an Auburn fan's suggestions for Alabama's homecoming theme.
You are absolutely right. I do disagree with it....If the guy were an innocent bystander and was outright murdered by the police, which is what the protest are suggesting happened, I would absolutely agree with it....we know that isn't the case...he put the cops in a no win situation...I would really be impressed if they were marching to protest black on black crime in the country......We know BLM doesn't care about that even though it is a much bigger issue.
Posted on 8/29/20 at 10:35 am to Mithridates6
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Your chance of being killed by a cop are about as good as being struck by lightning no matter your race; if you aren't resisting or attacking someone it's basically nil. The media just wants to stir up civil strife and make black criminals completely unaccountable
100% correct.
Posted on 8/29/20 at 10:38 am to Jjdoc
quote:Seeing as how he is on camera breaking the curfew of a city he didn't even live in and being given a free pass by the cops for doing so while holding a rifle that he would be a year too young to have if he even was a Wisconsin resident, that dog ain't gonna hunt. His very presence after curfew was already a violation of the law and the cops should have told him to go home and stop being a police cosplayer before something tragic happened.
Had zero record, was not breaking laws prior to the shootings.
quote:I believe the term is "fled across state lines."
After the shootings, he went home.
Posted on 8/29/20 at 10:43 am to BroomfieldReb
quote:Marches, prayer meetings, etc. against street crime happen all the time in the Black community. They don't work because, unlike the police, street criminals are not an organized body of public servants wno can (theoretically) be limited by the law.
I would really be impressed if they were marching to protest black on black crime in the country
quote:The protesters actually do have plans to reduce street crime by attacking its root causes, you just disagree with their proposals.
We know BLM doesn't care about that
Posted on 8/29/20 at 10:45 am to Chuck Barris
Ohh no curfew.
Posted on 8/29/20 at 10:49 am to Jjdoc
Exactly so Alabama Football is protesting the fact that the police was enforcing a court order and protecting a citizen and that when the criminal attacked the police, they the protected themselves from injury or death.
Posted on 8/29/20 at 10:51 am to Mithridates6
Same is true with Covid-19 but we are now living in an era where the truth doesn't matter; only tearing down our society because the Marxists want another country as a trophy to nihilism.
Posted on 8/29/20 at 10:53 am to Nado Jenkins83
quote:Yes.
Ohh no curfew.
The fact that the police saw this person violating the curfew they were supposed to be enforcing, noticed that he was a gun-carrying right-wing counterprotestor, and then decided to just give him a pass as opposed to checking his ID or you know, asking him to obey the curfew, actually is a pretty huge deal.
Their failure to do that led to the shootings of multiple people and a naive young man facing multiple felony charges instead of getting off by playing cop for a few hours before being sent home by responsible adults. If I was Rittenhouse's dad, I'd want some answers for why the cops didn't send my son away from a dangerous situation he had no right to be in.
Posted on 8/29/20 at 11:03 am to Chuck Barris
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Chuck Barris
First:
they are making a hero out of a rapist who was placed on a restraining order to protect his victim.
Do you grasp that? If so, let's move on.
He then violated the restraining order because sexually assaulting her WAS NOT ENOUGH!.
Are you following that?
The VICTIM called the police. The police tried to remove the CRIMINAL and the CRIMINAL refused. He then fought the cops because evidently it is his DAMN RIGHT to sexually assault somebody and then terrorize them AFTERWARD!
Are you following that? Do you need me to back to up and re-word that in a manner to which you can understand?
HE then FOUGHT the cops. They tased him.. NOT ONCE.... but TWICE.
It had NO EFFECT.
HE then went for the weapon in his car. They tried to stop him and he refused. They then shot him.
Screw you or any other fan of my university for making that POS a hero and a living martyr!
Since you keep ignoring it.
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Seeing as how he is on camera breaking the curfew of a city he didn't even live in and being given a free pass by the cops for doing so while holding a rifle that he would be a year too young to have if he even was a Wisconsin resident, that dog ain't gonna hunt. His very presence after curfew was already a violation of the law and the cops should have told him to go home and stop being a police cosplayer before something tragic happened.
That dog hunts just fine. You are comparing apples to oranges and calling it steak. It's BS in that at that time the Governor did not send in the needed help. He had that option.
The riots put the police at a disadvantage. Open carry is legal in Wisconsin. You do not need a Wisconsin Concealed Weapons License to open carry. Local authorities cannot have laws or ordinances against open carry since the state preempts all firearms laws in the state.
Again, NO RECORD. Not KNOWN to the cops. DID NOT FIGHT the cops.
When they arrested him.... He did not fight the cops. nor pull a weapon on the cops.
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I believe the term is "fled across state lines."
Which is where his home is.
Again.... He has been arrested. He did not fight the cops. He did not pull a gun on the cops nor a weapon of any kind. He was not a known criminal because he has no record.
He will be tried.
Posted on 8/29/20 at 11:08 am to Chuck Barris
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The protesters actually do have plans to reduce street crime by attacking its root causes, you just disagree with their proposals.
I disagree with burning, looting, etc which is what I see based on media coverage.
You can have a million blacks lose their lives at the hands of other blacks and not a word said.....one black loses his life at the hands of a white cop and lets burn the MF down......
This post was edited on 8/29/20 at 11:10 am
Posted on 8/29/20 at 11:10 am to BroomfieldReb
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If the guy were an innocent bystander and was outright murdered by the police, which is what the protest are suggesting happened, I would absolutely agree with it
People complained when black people protested the Tamir Rice shooting. Philando Castille also.
Posted on 8/29/20 at 11:10 am to Chuck Barris
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Their failure to do that led to the shootings of multiple people and a naive young man facing multiple felony charges instead of getting off by playing cop for a few hours before being sent home by responsible adults. If I was Rittenhouse's dad, I'd want some answers for why the cops didn't send my son away from a dangerous situation he had no right to be in.
Again... arrested. Facing charges. Did not fight with the arresting cops. Did not pull a weapon on the cops.
Only a POS would defend what Blake did.
Posted on 8/29/20 at 11:17 am to Jjdoc
Two very simple questions:
Question 1: Was Rittenhouse violating the curfew of a city he didn't live in?
(The answer is yes.)
Question 2: Once police noticed that a young man who might or might not be of legal age to carry a gun was out in a potentially violent situation open-carrying while violating the curfew, what should they have done?
If your answer is "Nothing, they should have let this person who might or might not have been a minor violate the curfew they were out to enforce without checking to see if it was legal for him to have that gun or whether he even lived in that city," then you think the police did everything right.
If your answer is "They should have told him to obey the law and go home, or at least detained him and asked to see his ID before noticing his age and residence before telling him to obey the law and go home", you probably actually care about Kyle's life and the lives of the people he shot beyond their usefulness to you as a political talking point.
Question 1: Was Rittenhouse violating the curfew of a city he didn't live in?
(The answer is yes.)
Question 2: Once police noticed that a young man who might or might not be of legal age to carry a gun was out in a potentially violent situation open-carrying while violating the curfew, what should they have done?
If your answer is "Nothing, they should have let this person who might or might not have been a minor violate the curfew they were out to enforce without checking to see if it was legal for him to have that gun or whether he even lived in that city," then you think the police did everything right.
If your answer is "They should have told him to obey the law and go home, or at least detained him and asked to see his ID before noticing his age and residence before telling him to obey the law and go home", you probably actually care about Kyle's life and the lives of the people he shot beyond their usefulness to you as a political talking point.
Posted on 8/29/20 at 11:23 am to stomp
quote:This is because the complaints aren't actually about the specifics of the case, they're about defending the idea that the police have to be able to break the law and violate rights (*of non-White people*) in order to do their jobs, and that only chaos would result from asking them to actually follow the law.
People complained when black people protested the Tamir Rice shooting. Philando Castille also.
Posted on 8/29/20 at 11:26 am to Chuck Barris
quote:
Two very simple questions:
Question 1: Was Rittenhouse violating the curfew of a city he didn't live in?
Has not one damn thing to do with the march. The guy has been arrested and is facing charges. He did not resist. He did not fight the cops. He did not pull a weapon on them.
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Question 2: Once police noticed that a young man who might or might not be of legal age to carry a gun was out in a potentially violent situation open-carrying while violating the curfew, what should they have done?
Has not one damn thing to do with the march at Bama. The person we are celebrating as a hero:
quote:
Chuck Barris
First:
they are making a hero out of a rapist who was placed on a restraining order to protect his victim.
Do you grasp that? If so, let's move on.
He then violated the restraining order because sexually assaulting her WAS NOT ENOUGH!.
Are you following that?
The VICTIM called the police. The police tried to remove the CRIMINAL and the CRIMINAL refused. He then fought the cops because evidently it is his DAMN RIGHT to sexually assault somebody and then terrorize them AFTERWARD!
Are you following that? Do you need me to back to up and re-word that in a manner to which you can understand?
HE then FOUGHT the cops. They tased him.. NOT ONCE.... but TWICE.
It had NO EFFECT.
HE then went for the weapon in his car. They tried to stop him and he refused. They then shot him.
Screw you or any other fan of my university for making that POS a hero and a living martyr!
Since you keep ignoring it.
Posted on 8/29/20 at 11:29 am to BroomfieldReb
quote:I'm not sure how this idea gets traction. Marches, prayer meetings, "community initiatives" and the like are so common after Black on Black shootings that it's a running joke on this very website.
You can have a million blacks lose their lives at the hands of other blacks and not a word said.....
Whether it's in the USA, India, Brazil, the UK, or wherever, crime exists when there are certain social conditions mixed together: poverty, addiction, high population density of the poor, and untreated mental illness. Crime anywhere, any place, in any country, among any group, will persist as long as those factors are present.
Posted on 8/29/20 at 11:31 am to NDonahue
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Seriously doubt it. Saban is a bigtime left-winger. The SJW stuff is right up his alley.
I'm not sure if he said it or not, I hope he did. But i don't think he's a "serious" left-winger in terms of the progressive sense. I do think he was a traditional democrat, but that is a dying breed in the mass extinction event that is the progressive left controlling the main stream elected dems narratives now.
*edit*
I don't think Saban is a bi*** like most modern progressives
This post was edited on 8/29/20 at 11:31 am
Posted on 8/29/20 at 11:35 am to m2pro
quote:If you really, truly think that Joe "the senator from MBNA" Biden and Kamala "muh record as a prosecutor" Harris, who were nominated at a convention where literal members of the Republican Party got more than ten times as much speaking time as AOC are controlled by the progressive left, I'm certain nothing will change your mind.
progressive left controlling the main stream elected dems narratives now.
Posted on 8/29/20 at 11:38 am to Chuck Barris
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If you really, truly think that Joe "the senator from MBNA" Biden and Kamala "muh record as a prosecutor" Harris, who were nominated at a convention where literal members of the Republican Party got more than ten times as much speaking time as AOC are controlled by the progressive left, I'm certain nothing will change your mind.
I'm certain you've seen none of his new policy stances as opposed to his entire history of running against them.
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