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re: Bama's Cam Robinson, Hootie Jones Arrested on Felony stolen handgun and drugs
Posted on 5/18/16 at 12:29 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
Posted on 5/18/16 at 12:29 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
So do you think it os only a matter of time before the evidence is confirmed and acceptable in court?
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Posted on 5/18/16 at 12:35 pm to SummerOfGeorge
quote:DEA
Schedule I
Schedule I drugs, substances, or chemicals are defined as drugs with no currently accepted medical use and a high potential for abuse. Schedule I drugs are the most dangerous drugs of all the drug schedules with potentially severe psychological or physical dependence. Some examples of Schedule I drugs are:
heroin, lysergic acid diethylamide (LSD), marijuana (cannabis), 3,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine (ecstasy), methaqualone, and peyote
quote:JAMA
But scientific study of the medical uses of marijuana is ongoing. So far, evidence suggests that marijuana may be an effective treatment for chronic pain, neuropathic (nerve) pain, and muscle spasms due to multiple sclerosis or paraplegia. In most states with medical marijuana laws, marijuana can be used to treat severe or chronic pain and severe or persistent muscle spasms.
Posted on 5/18/16 at 12:39 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
Even though they have pretty much proven that marijuana has some medical benifits, the law has not been changed to reflect this.
Posted on 5/18/16 at 12:40 pm to Bayou_Tiger_225
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So do you think it os only a matter of time before the evidence is confirmed and acceptable in court?
Yes - unless they got ripped off.
I just don't see how they can get around, "... without the benefit of probation, parole, or suspension of sentence". I think they're fricked.
Posted on 5/18/16 at 12:42 pm to South Alabama Tide
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Robinson can sue since he did not consent to anything
Please tell me you are just making a joke
Posted on 5/18/16 at 12:43 pm to South Alabama Tide
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You have to present yourself as an officer of the law. Technically, Robinson can sue since he did not consent to anything. Even with reasonable suspicion and probable cause, nothing can be done until you present yourself as an officer of the law.
And this right here folks wins the dumb post of the thread and considering Phan posted in this thread, that is really quite an accomplishment.
Bravo sir, bravo.
Posted on 5/18/16 at 12:49 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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It is two felonies - IF they prove that it was a "controlled dangerous substance" in the bag. They may just be waiting on lab results to provide the requisite evidence.
I speculated earlier that it might be pending lab results, but it's still not clear why they would go ahead and charge them under the same statute and not list it as a felony. If the lab results came back oregano the charge would just be dropped.
My attorney SO also thinks it's really weird for a judge to reduce a felony to a misdemeanor at arraignment unless it's clearly spelled out he has the option to do so in the statute. She thinks there's something either we or the media calling them misdemeanors is missing.
Posted on 5/18/16 at 12:50 pm to JustGetItRight
Im pretty sure it was clear as day that he was an officer of the law. Pulling up behind them in a marked squad car is as clear as it gets. The officer also didn't need a search warrent for this. As described in the officer's report, the strong oder of weed coming from the car is considered probable cause for the search. The who process was completely legally.
Posted on 5/18/16 at 12:54 pm to VermilionTiger
quote:Who said it was going away?
This isn't going away. Nothing they can do can make this go away!!
Cam's a big loss. The O-line was already suspect (has been for at least a season and a half). Hootie could have been a contributor. But this isn't a case of wrongdoing by the university or its officials and there's no NCAA violation, as far as can be seen.
These three weeks - between the end of spring and start of summer term - are when all the stupid shite usually happens. Pretty sure that unless the Ouachita DA drops the charges these two will never be wearing Crimson on the field again.
Posted on 5/18/16 at 12:56 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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While white kids in the burbs hire rich lawyers to get their weed/pill charges wiped away with no jail time whatsoever.
American justice system baby
George you're probably a more level headed poster than even me, but I've got to take exception to this statement.
You won't find any justice system in the WORLD where being a person of means doesn't provide the chance for a more favorable outcome. Going even further you will find very, very, very few systems where a person without means is afforded the level of tools to argue their case that they're provided in our system.
The fact that the rich get the best lawyers isn't an American thing, that's a worldwide and all of recorded history thing. Conversely, things we take for granted like the right to counsel, Miranda rights, the right to avoid self incrimination, and even something as basic as the right to a presumption of innocence are rarities even in many democracies of today.
Posted on 5/18/16 at 1:03 pm to Bayou_Tiger_225
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Im pretty sure it was clear as day that he was an officer of the law. Pulling up behind them in a marked squad car is as clear as it gets. The officer also didn't need a search warrent for this. As described in the officer's report, the strong oder of weed coming from the car is considered probable cause for the search. The who process was completely legally.
Of course it was a legit search. If the poster I quoted is serious, he might want to seek some professional help.
Posted on 5/18/16 at 1:04 pm to JustGetItRight
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You won't find any justice system in the WORLD where being a person of means doesn't provide the chance for a more favorable outcome.
Posted on 5/18/16 at 1:05 pm to JustGetItRight
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Conversely, things we take for granted like the right to counsel, Miranda rights, the right to avoid self incrimination, and even something as basic as the right to a presumption of innocence are rarities even in many democracies of today.
Actually many democracies, at least in Europe and other countries like Australia, do a very good job of protecting the rights of those accused of crimes, in some cases even better than we do here. The practices and procedures are different, and because of the difference, and our lack of familiarity with them, Americans tend to presume they are not as good.
Your general point about the advantages of wealth, however, pretty dead on.
Posted on 5/18/16 at 1:11 pm to tigerinridgeland
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Actually many democracies, at least in Europe and other countries like Australia, do a very good job of protecting the rights of those accused of crimes, in some cases even better than we do here. The practices and procedures are different, and because of the difference, and our lack of familiarity with them, Americans tend to presume they are not as good.
I'm not arguing that our system is perfect or even the best, just that it is pretty danged high up on the list.
Posted on 5/18/16 at 1:13 pm to Restomod
Just a question for those of us not "locked" into this story. Have the kids posted bail yet?
Posted on 5/18/16 at 1:15 pm to JustGetItRight
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George you're probably a more level headed poster than even me, but I've got to take exception to this statement. You won't find any justice system in the WORLD where being a person of means doesn't provide the chance for a more favorable outcome. Going even further you will find very, very, very few systems where a person without means is afforded the level of tools to argue their case that they're provided in our system. The fact that the rich get the best lawyers isn't an American thing, that's a worldwide and all of recorded history thing. Conversely, things we take for granted like the right to counsel, Miranda rights, the right to avoid self incrimination, and even something as basic as the right to a presumption of innocence are rarities even in many democracies of today.
I agree
Posted on 5/18/16 at 1:15 pm to geauxbrown
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Just a question for those of us not "locked" into this story. Have the kids posted bail yet?
That's even more interesting. They spent very little time behind bars. If I read it right, Jones was released without bond and Robinson's bond was only $750.
Posted on 5/18/16 at 1:18 pm to JustGetItRight
Saban today on possible discipline...
I don't suppose any of y'all need that translated.
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"If we can change their behavior based on what we do, that would be the purpose of discipline. Discipline is not necessarily just punishment...
"It's how do you changed somebody's behavior so they have a better chance to be successful. That's the way we've always done, that's the way we try to do it, that's the way I'd like to do it with my own children. I think that's the way most parents would like to do it with their children."
I don't suppose any of y'all need that translated.
Posted on 5/18/16 at 1:18 pm to JustGetItRight
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Jones was released without bond
which usually means he will have to meet with detective and they will ask him to roll on someone.
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Robinson's bond was only $750.
That is an extremely lenient bond for the crime committed.
Posted on 5/18/16 at 1:19 pm to Bayou_Tiger_225
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However, we still have some of the toughest punishments for possession of weed in the nation(outside of New Orleans).
Not anymore. It was changed last year, so that up to 2.5 pounds is considered a misdemeanor. Plus, there's no differentiation between buds and concentrates. They're probably the most lax in the south.
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