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re: Bama's Cam Robinson, Hootie Jones Arrested on Felony stolen handgun and drugs
Posted on 5/17/16 at 12:59 pm to Lonnie Utah
Posted on 5/17/16 at 12:59 pm to Lonnie Utah
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At least it didn't have a filed of serial number like Isaiah Crowell...
Do we know that yet?
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Posted on 5/17/16 at 12:59 pm to ColoradoElkHerd
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I don't see how someone can have a stolen gun and not know it was stolen
It takes a certain level of naivety. Unfortunately that hurts your street cred.
Posted on 5/17/16 at 12:59 pm to SECSolomonGrundy
What happens when he bought the gun/drugs in Alabama but he gets busted selling them in Louisiana
Posted on 5/17/16 at 12:59 pm to tider04
quote:suck on a crusty nut
Man, if we just made guns illegal this stuff wouldn't happen. Listen to Obama people!
Posted on 5/17/16 at 1:00 pm to RB10
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While I think it's highly unlikely, the serial number could be filed off as well.
I think you'd have seen a felony charge for having a gun with an altered serial number if that were the case.
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You would think Cam would be smart enough to not take the weapon in that case though.
I'm not sure I share your confidence, given the present circumstances and all.
Posted on 5/17/16 at 1:01 pm to Patton
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Ole Miss Sticked thread: 5 Days 440 responses
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Learn your place Bears.
This. I'm seriously laughing.
Posted on 5/17/16 at 1:02 pm to bmy
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What happens when he bought the gun/drugs in Alabama but he gets busted selling them in Louisiana
RICO crime.
Posted on 5/17/16 at 1:02 pm to Restomod
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Well, I guess Cam finally gets called for holding...
Posted on 5/17/16 at 1:03 pm to Funky Tide 8
He's just a Patsy.
Posted on 5/17/16 at 1:03 pm to SECSolomonGrundy
quote:wrong.
I think his point is that the prosecution will have to show that he knew it was stolen.
Posted on 5/17/16 at 1:04 pm to JustGetItRight
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Someone ever give you a gun - or any other nice gift for that matter - that wasn't new in the box?
I make it a point not to associate myself with the type of people that steal guns.
Posted on 5/17/16 at 1:04 pm to UpToPar
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Do we know that yet?
No, but I just wanted to get a dig in on the UGA dogs.....
Posted on 5/17/16 at 1:04 pm to RogerTheShrubber
In Louisiana, what would normally happen if these two young men were not prominent athletes?
Would this normally get plead down and be a youthful offender charge?
I am genuinely curious.
Would this normally get plead down and be a youthful offender charge?
I am genuinely curious.
Posted on 5/17/16 at 1:05 pm to UpToPar
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Well, I agree there. Unless the serial numbers are scratched off or something it may be difficult to show that he knew it was stolen.
That's not the way it works.
The gun IS stolen and he is in possession of it. Those are facts.
The state doesn't have to prove he knew or should have known it was stolen. In this case, the burden is on Robinson to show that he didn't know and didn't have any reason to suspect it was stolen.
Posted on 5/17/16 at 1:07 pm to Restomod
But but but but I thought LSU was the only place where players get in trouble because Les Miles has no control of his team?
Posted on 5/17/16 at 1:08 pm to JustGetItRight
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The state doesn't have to prove he knew or should have known it was stolen. In this case, the burden is on Robinson to show that he didn't know and didn't have any reason to suspect it was stolen.
This.
It's easy enough to prove with any sort of documentation of the sale. As has been said, as long as the price was reasonable he had no reason to suspect the gun was stolen.
Of course, this is assuming Cam didn't just pay cash and actually demanded documentation. Like you said before, given his current predicament that may be expecting too much from him.
This post was edited on 5/17/16 at 1:10 pm
Posted on 5/17/16 at 1:08 pm to JustGetItRight
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The state doesn't have to prove he knew or should have known it was stolen. In this case, the burden is on Robinson to show that he didn't know and didn't have any reason to suspect it was stolen.
Yep, just read the statute and realized that lack of knowledge is an affirmative defense rather than knowledge being an element of the crime.
That means Cam is going to have to say who he got it from and that person will either have to throw Cam under the bus or they will be charged with possession of a stolen firearm.
Posted on 5/17/16 at 1:08 pm to ColoradoElkHerd
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I make it a point not to associate myself with the type of people that steal guns.
I didn't ask who you associated with. I asked if you'd ever purchased or received used consumer items that are commonly targeted for theft and if so, how did you ensure that those items were not stolen.
I can only assume from your answer that you in fact either don't know that those items aren't stolen or you're rich and buy only new merchandise from brick and mortar stores.
Posted on 5/17/16 at 1:12 pm to JustGetItRight
quote:correct, he's gonna have to rat out whoever he bought the gun from. Have proof of that fact and hope whoever that is is remotely legit. Has to pass the buck convincingly, to get off that hook.
The state doesn't have to prove he knew or should have known it was stolen. In this case, the burden is on Robinson to show that he didn't know and didn't have any reason to suspect it was stolen
Posted on 5/17/16 at 1:15 pm to DTRooster
Bammers lining up to go to jail for Cam. Hell, I might do it for a million.
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