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re: Bama Trustees Trying to End UAB Football After 2016

Posted on 11/5/14 at 10:22 pm to
Posted by undecided
Member since May 2012
15492 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 10:22 pm to
U killin u'r father Larry
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
69385 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 10:24 pm to
quote:

UAB has outgrown the UA BOT. They do not act in the best interests of UAB and have demonstrated this repeatedly.


UAB is to The University of Alabama as the state of Alabama is to the United States of America. They have some autonomy but they will always have to answer to a higher authority no matter how big they get.

If UAB wants to leave the university system they can leave the medical and dental schools behind before they walk out the door.
This post was edited on 11/5/14 at 10:26 pm
Posted by higgs_boson
State College, PA
Member since Sep 2014
22977 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 10:35 pm to
quote:

If UAB wants to leave the university system they can leave the medical and dental schools behind before they walk out the door.


Do not agree with you about that but at least like the edit, the medical and dental schools are a quagmire to try and disentangle. Why not just give UAB more autonomy regarding athletics?

So I guess my question is do you agree with the BOT's treatment of UAB?

Most UAB alum I know are huge Alabama fans, which makes the treatment only worse. The timing of this rumor about closing down the football program, just as they have a shot at a winning season, seems to reemphasize what so many UAB fans have always said.

Posted by Sandperson
B-Ham, AL
Member since May 2005
4225 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 11:46 pm to
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UAB Endowment $335 million


If this statistic is accurate, it is shocking. UAB supposedly has a world class Med School and hospital, but their endowment is about the same as Samford's. Wow.
Posted by TommyM
Conflict of interest
Member since Nov 2013
2511 posts
Posted on 11/6/14 at 12:06 am to
FWIW, I believe the only CUSA school with a higher endowment is Rice.
Posted by BamaDude06
GOATville20
Member since Jan 2007
3682 posts
Posted on 11/6/14 at 1:26 am to
quote:

I believe the only CUSA school with a higher endowment is Rice.


Only because all the "big" CUSA schools left.
Posted by jj06
atlanta..God’s city
Member since Jul 2013
2295 posts
Posted on 11/6/14 at 2:15 am to
Maybe of you get off UAT's sack & support UAB by donating & going to games they wouldnt be in this situation.


People who graduate from a small school but abandon them & get on the bigger school's bandwagon suck
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
43814 posts
Posted on 11/6/14 at 6:20 am to
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Alabama's football program is self-sustaining


Then why did Alabama's football program report a $5million+ subsidy from the Universtiy on their 2013 IRS tax return?
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 11/6/14 at 6:31 am to
Bama is terrified of UAB football. They have been for a decade.

I couldn't tell you why, but that is the way it is.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
43814 posts
Posted on 11/6/14 at 6:34 am to
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ErnestTBassmaster


So you admit that Alabama's athletic department took tax money from the school? 5.5million-4.4million=1.1million the program still owes the school. Maybe yall should have let Saban go to someone who can afford him.(sarcasm)

quote:

Alabama's program received nearly $5.5 million in institutional funds in 2012, up from more than $5.2 million in 2011. It reported sending nearly $4.4 million of an $16.7 million total surplus back to the university — $1 million for faculty support and nearly $3.4 million in licensing money. .


Which is stupid, why didn't the athletic department just take$1.1 million.?LSU is guilty of it too, TAF received $3000 in student fees, but gave back $7million to the university in 2013. The athletic departments at the schools that can afford it and then give back to the university so they don't have to pay taxes on profits.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
43814 posts
Posted on 11/6/14 at 6:40 am to
quote:

Bama is terrified of UAB football. They have been for a decade.

I couldn't tell you why, but that is the way it is


because if UAB becomes good all UAT will be left with is the cousin freakers that never went to school there. Then Alabama will not even be able to beat ULM
Posted by InfernoOrangeSS
Pelham, AL
Member since Mar 2014
819 posts
Posted on 11/6/14 at 6:46 am to
Is it just Football, or does the BoT want to end all their athletics? I don't think UA ever plays UAB in Basketball.

Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
43814 posts
Posted on 11/6/14 at 6:47 am to
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Is it just Football, or does the BoT want to end all their athletics? I don't think UA ever plays UAB in Basketball.



:fingerofshame: Bama
Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
Member since Jul 2014
21940 posts
Posted on 11/6/14 at 7:12 am to
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including one, Paul "Bear" Bryant Jr.


WOW. That's just..wow.
Posted by Patton
Principality of Sealand
Member since Apr 2011
32655 posts
Posted on 11/6/14 at 7:15 am to
quote:

Bama is terrified of UAB football. They have been for a decade.

I couldn't tell you why, but that is the way it is.


Ok TnM
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 11/6/14 at 7:20 am to
quote:

Is it just Football, or does the BoT want to end all their athletics?


It is just football. Bama has always felt threatened by UAB for some reason and actively worked to make sure their program could not succeed. The most obvious example is when UAB and Jimbo Fisher had come to an agreement for Jimbo to be UAB's head coach and UAB boosters were actually going to pay most of his salary. There was a real commitment then to making UAB football good. Bama saw this and blocked the hire of Fisher and hand picked a poor coach for UAB to intentionally frick them.

At that point, UAB saw that UA was going to do all it could to prevent them from succeeding. UAB hasn't quit trying, but that and the UA BOT refusing to even hear a stadium proposal a few years ago with significant private financing has caused some UAB backers to throw in the towel. Some are still fighting, but bama feels threatened enough by them now that they are just going to shut it all down.

I have no idea why, but that is the reality. I've been following this for a long time, to some degree ever since UAB started its football program. FTR, I'm from Bham my whole life until I went to school at AU then left the state. Several high school friends that went to UAB over the years.
Posted by Scoreboard
Madison, AL
Member since Apr 2012
2011 posts
Posted on 11/6/14 at 7:29 am to
Because in the state of Alabama, what Bama says goes. That includes Auburn.

Actually Auburn has its own separate system and Board of Trustees. What Bama does might impact Auburn through state funding. But in no way does the Alabama system dictate to the Auburn system.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
43814 posts
Posted on 11/6/14 at 7:31 am to
Why doesn't UAB just go to the Auburn system? That way auburn can have a med school and DO school.
Posted by Scoreboard
Madison, AL
Member since Apr 2012
2011 posts
Posted on 11/6/14 at 7:35 am to
Why doesn't UAB just go to the Auburn system? That way auburn can have a med school and DO school.

That's an interesting question. I have to guess the UAB folks are looking into it.
Posted by InfernoOrangeSS
Pelham, AL
Member since Mar 2014
819 posts
Posted on 11/6/14 at 7:56 am to
quote:

Why doesn't UAB just go to the Auburn system? That way auburn can have a med school and DO school. That's an interesting question. I have to guess the UAB folks are looking into it.


That will never happen.
I would think they would try to be their own school first.
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