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re: Bama linebacker busts

Posted on 5/4/21 at 12:49 pm to
Posted by amders44
Atlanta Metro
Member since Jun 2013
674 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 12:49 pm to
I dont understand the uninformed talk about Rashan Evans. He started every game on the Titans last year and had almost 100 tackles, good for third on the team. Hardly a bust. Superstar? Maybe not but certainly his production is adaquate in the NFL. He was 44th in tackles in the entire NFL, I calculate that as the top 15 percent of productivity on D in the NFL.
Posted by KellerChrystFan
Member since Sep 2018
9630 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 1:02 pm to
Titans defense was absolute shite - so that really means nothing. Jayon Brown is the only good LB on that roster.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26957 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 1:11 pm to
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I’m sure I’m forgetting someone.



Yes. Yes, you are.

And yeah, OP is a clueless fricking dipshit.

This post was edited on 5/4/21 at 1:16 pm
Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2010
13619 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 1:17 pm to
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And Foster is more than just injury. First round talent waived? Who just waives first rounders? That’s the definition of a bust. Doesn’t matter the reason.


1st rounder Leonard Fournette waived after 3 seasons with Jags
Posted by Scot 20
Texas
Member since Aug 2020
258 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 1:23 pm to
quote:

caloosa PD? That’s baby shite!! He has the Tuscaloosa PD, the state’s AG office, the FBI, aaaannnnndddd the REC.

God bless Buford T. Justice



Any mention of Buford T Justice is gold with me. Probably the top law dog in all of history. Always in hot pursuit. RIP
Posted by Rayburn8
Member since Jun 2014
1715 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 1:26 pm to
I am a big Titans fan, I would not call Reshan Evans a bust probably, but I definitely would not call him good either.

The dude might be the worst pass coverage Linebacker in the NFL and was an absolute liability on the field last season. His run stopping and tackling regressed as well.

A major talking point in the Titans fanbase is figuring out how to replace Evans because he was arse last season.

Our defense was one of the worst in the NFL and Evans was bad enough to stand out as being bad on that defense.

Anyone who thinks Rashan Evans is a good linebacker in today's NFL is being a homer. You can't call someone who can only play two downs at most a good linebacker. He is starting because our ILBs are awful outside of Jayon, but he did not really play third downs last year at all.
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
8795 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 1:28 pm to
Clearly a bust for the Jags for what they invested. But he requested to get waived and wanted off the team. No where near as bad as Trent Richardson though. He was actually top 10 in the league in yards his last year in Jax. And Fournette actually helped Tampa get a trophy that they probably don’t have if he wasn’t on the team.

The discussion isn’t about running backs though.
Posted by Rayburn8
Member since Jun 2014
1715 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 1:28 pm to
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I dont understand the uninformed talk about Rashan Evans. He started every game on the Titans last year and had almost 100 tackles, good for third on the team. Hardly a bust. Superstar? Maybe not but certainly his production is adaquate in the NFL. He was 44th in tackles in the entire NFL, I calculate that as the top 15 percent of productivity on D in the NFL.



That is what happens when whoever you are covering gets a catch every single passing play because you are arse in pass coverage.

Also Evans did not have 100 tackles and did not even lead that awful defense in tackles.
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
8795 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 1:33 pm to
Like I said in my earlier post. Most of you may not remember but he wanted off of that team along with most of the other good players, Jalen Ramsey, Ngaoue or whatever his name is, and a few others. Coughlin poisoned the waters and blew the team up.
Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
In The Ham
Member since Nov 2017
11661 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 1:34 pm to
It is going to take a lot more than canning Evans to fix that defense. I don't know anything but I thought Evans best position would be on the outside as a speed rush guy instead of ILBer. The Titans HC is supposed to be the Man on defense so he isn't getting it done.
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
8795 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 1:36 pm to
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I am a big Titans fan, I would not call Reshan Evans a bust probably, but I definitely would not call him good either.


So as an impartial Titans fan, you’d say he’s closer to being a bust than a productive player worth the 1st round pick.?

I’ve read more than a few articles that the Titans were not pleased with his play and were ready to move on.

Far cry from the fan boy post that posted earlier that he was a solid starter and about to get a big payday soon....
This post was edited on 5/4/21 at 1:41 pm
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
8795 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 1:39 pm to
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Yes. Yes, you are. And yeah, OP is a clueless fricking dip shite.


I’m talking about linebackers the last 10-15 years mostly under Saban.

And you must not have read your fellow fan boy posts that argued Ryan Anderson has outperformed his 2nd round draft status, that Rashaan Evans is a good starter and about to get paid. Rueben Foster was a good 1st round pick and so on.

UDFA can’t be a bust even though he took out a multi million dollar injury policy, plays the entire year, does not get injured, and goes Undrafted.

But I’m clueless lol.
This post was edited on 5/4/21 at 1:43 pm
Posted by Rayburn8
Member since Jun 2014
1715 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 1:41 pm to
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It is going to take a lot more than canning Evans to fix that defense. I don't know anything but I thought Evans best position would be on the outside as a speed rush guy instead of ILBer. The Titans HC is supposed to be the Man on defense so he isn't getting it done.


You are right, but canning Evans and getting someone who can play modern NFL linebacker is a big part of fixing the defense.

You can't go acting like Evans is secretly good because the whole defense was bad.

If Evans was able to be a speed rush guy, he would have been one by now. We had an awful pass rush last year, if Evans could get to the QB, he would have been rushed a lot. Thing is Evans cant really get to the QB.

Evans used to be a good to great run stopper, but now is an average run stopper, without pass rushing skills and cant cover a thing.

He is arse, and unless he has a trasnformative season this year, he will not be resigned by the Titans and will likely become an journeyman Goal line Linebacker.
Posted by Rayburn8
Member since Jun 2014
1715 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 1:42 pm to
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So as an impartial Titans fan, you’d say he’s closer to being a bust than a productive player worth the 1st round pick.?

I’ve read more than a few articles that the Titans were not pleased with his play and were ready to move on.

Far cry from the fan boy post that posted earlier that he was a solid starter and about to get a big payday soon....


If we could afford it, the Titans would have moved on this off-season.
This post was edited on 5/4/21 at 1:42 pm
Posted by Ted2010
Member since Oct 2010
38958 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 1:47 pm to
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It astonishes me every time I see threads like this.


Yep.
Posted by amders44
Atlanta Metro
Member since Jun 2013
674 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 2:01 pm to
I think ESPN did a position breakdown in 19, on each position and which schools produce the best NFL players at each position. UGA was the only school that wasn't producing busts at LB I guess because they were number 1. From that point down it was all busts as Bama was number 2 and so on down the line!!!
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
5901 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 2:03 pm to
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For a 1st round pick? No that’s a bust if they are out of the program in 3-4 years.



That’s like the average NFL career. Most players don’t play for a decade. Evans will very likely start somewhere after this contact. That ain’t a bust. Y’all’s continuum on this stuff isn’t attached to the operational reality of the NFL.
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
8795 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 2:09 pm to
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That’s like the average NFL career.


Yea, that’s including UDFAs and 7th round picks etc bringing that number down. First, second and even third round picks get several chances before they are finished just off of draft position. I agree he will get signed by someone again. Just because someone may think they could change him if he may fit their defense better, or they liked him out of college.

Doesn’t mean much b/c he gets signed by another team.
This post was edited on 5/4/21 at 2:10 pm
Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
In The Ham
Member since Nov 2017
11661 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 2:09 pm to
Evans signed for 11.5 million and 6.5 signing bonus. He should be good to go.
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
5901 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 2:09 pm to
I’m not a fanboy. He’s been solid at times. I think he could start on some squad and get a paycheck. He had a bad year last year but the entire defense is garbage so hard to determine the entire blame. You do play as a unit first and foremost and it is sometimes frustrating when guys around you are making things worse for you.

I think the consistent problem with the logic of this topic is bust == not an all-pro caliber player. In my opinion you are not a bust if you don’t get cut during your first contact and get signed to second contract. If somebody will pay you for your services in the most elite level of play in your sport, you can’t be that bad.
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