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Posted on 3/12/09 at 11:53 pm to
Posted by HeartOfGeauxld
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Posted on 3/12/09 at 11:53 pm to
Bama will not be as good on defense this year as they were last year. Simply put, the entire SEC will be improved offensively in 2009. Not just the west. Part of why Bama looked good defensively last year was because the SEC was down offensively.

Conversely, Bama's offense will struggle much more this year with a new QB, a new RB, and a rebuilt o-line. Add in the fact that many SEC teams will be improved defensively in 2009, and the Tide will START off the year with 2-4 losses in the early part of their schedule.

VT, Arkansas, and Kentucky will have good to excellent chances of beating the Tide this year.

LSU and Ole Miss just have superior teams.

Alabama will end the season on a high note...there's just too much talent to think otherwise...but will struggle early and often for the reason's I've given.

Which means 2010 is crucial to Alabama's chances of keeping Saban. If the Tide can't win the SEC, not just the west, in 2010, Saban calls Sexton and says "Get me outta here."

This post was edited on 3/13/09 at 12:01 am
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
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Posted on 3/13/09 at 12:06 am to
You're a fricking retard.

Alabama's defense was young last season, so its no stretch to imagine that they'll be improved. We return nine starters, and 31 of 33 in the three deep. Sure some the SEC's programs will improved offensively, but the only sure bet is Ole Miss in the West. LSU still has things to sort out, even with Jefferson's develop down the stretch in 2008. So, stating that Ole Miss and LSU have far superior teams is fricking dumb.

As for VT, Arkansas, and Kentucky, you're a damn loon if you think all three are going to beat Alabama. VT is going to be tough on defense, but I've yet to be impressed with Tyrod Taylor at QB. His mobility would be the only concern right now. Arkansas still doesn't have the pieces on offense, but Mallett should be an improvement at QB. However, that defense of theirs is still god awful. Kentucky, well they're still Kentucky. They lost a number of key people on denfense. And Dicky Lyons was it on offense.

I fully expect Alabama to fall in the 9-3 or 10-2 range in 2009. I have no idea who'll win the West right now.

As for 2010, Alabama will be fricking primed and ready for bigger things.

Posted by bamaboy87
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 3/13/09 at 12:13 am to
I'm thinking 9-3 or 10-2. However I will not be surprised for us to end up 8-4. I think we lose to LSU unfortunately, but not sure who the others would be. If we beat VT, then I will feel better about the season. I don't think we will lose to tennessee or auburn, and ole miss is a toss up because it's an away game and they should have a pretty good team. Really it mostly depends on how our QB does. If we have solid QB play and if he imporves throughout the season it should be another pretty good year. I'm looking foward to it
Posted by HeartOfGeauxld
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Posted on 3/13/09 at 12:36 am to
CapstoneGrad06, you are a typical Bamahomer in that you never learned the social niceties.

You don't have to agree with me, but you can disagree without acting like trailer trash.

Bama can be improved talent-wise and still not put up the same kind of numbers as last year because everyone else in the conference improved as well.

VT returns more starters and will be favored. Bama struggled to beat UK last year and UK will be better in 2009. I don't know where you got the idea that UK lost people, pretty much everyone came back. Arkansas came on strong late and that will carry over next year.

Ole Miss gave Bama everything they could handle last year and will be better in 2009, especially at their place. LSU will show the Tide how it feels to be the one with a brand new QB.

Bama will be out of the west race by the time LSU rolls into Tuscaloosa.

This post was edited on 3/13/09 at 12:41 am
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 3/13/09 at 12:42 am to
quote:

Part of why Bama looked good defensively last year was because the SEC was down offensively


wow.

How bad is Lsu's defense gonna be? I mean, if they could not do diddly against bad offenses last year, I can only imagine this year. Does this mean yall will be giving up 70 in a couple of games instead of 50?

quote:

Add in the fact that many SEC teams will be improved defensively in 2009,


Wait. I see what you did there. Bama will not be as good on defense, but everyone else will be.

This post was edited on 3/13/09 at 12:43 am
Posted by heartbreakTiger
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Posted on 3/13/09 at 12:44 am to
hunter you missed the gov coming out the closet.
Posted by Alahunter
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Posted on 3/13/09 at 12:44 am to
Yah.. I was playing games.
Posted by HeartOfGeauxld
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Posted on 3/13/09 at 12:48 am to
LSU's defense will be helped because the offense will be a strong as it is.

It remains to be seen if the Tide can pull off what Chavis did at UT last year, Namely coach a defense to tied for the top spot in the SEC with an offense that ranks last in the conference in time of possession.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
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Posted on 3/13/09 at 12:49 am to
Posted by Alahunter
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Posted on 3/13/09 at 12:55 am to
quote:

It remains to be seen if the Tide can pull off what Chavis did at UT last year, Namely coach a defense to tied for the top spot in the SEC


They were 3rd in defense in the SEC. And they have arguably the best defensive player in the conference. I will grant, their offense helped them in no way at all.

I realize Bama will be rebuilding vital areas on offense. But yall are basically in the same boat. You have a QB that only has 2 games under his belt. Not exactly a seasoned guy who has gone through the grueling season of an SEC schedule. What makes you think he will be so much better and make your offense so extradinary? Had Les played him the entire year, even half they year, I'd be inclined to think yall would be better off, but you're going to be going through growing pains with him just the same.
This post was edited on 3/13/09 at 12:56 am
Posted by HeartOfGeauxld
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Posted on 3/13/09 at 1:50 am to
quote:

quote:
It remains to be seen if the Tide can pull off what Chavis did at UT last year, Namely coach a defense to tied for the top spot in the SEC



They were 3rd in defense in the SEC. And they have arguably the best defensive player in the conference. I will grant, their offense helped them in no way at all.

I realize Bama will be rebuilding vital areas on offense. But yall are basically in the same boat. You have a QB that only has 2 games under his belt. Not exactly a seasoned guy who has gone through the grueling season of an SEC schedule. What makes you think he will be so much better and make your offense so extradinary? Had Les played him the entire year, even half they year, I'd be inclined to think yall would be better off, but you're going to be going through growing pains with him just the same.


UT and UA were tied at the top for total defense.

And Jefferson is a dual-threat QB. It's much easier for a QB who can run to get comfortable in an offense.

And with respect, there's no way you can compare LSU's QB play with the Tide's. Jefferson threw as many passes in three quarters last year as McElroy has in three years. Look it up if you don't believe me.

All that being said, that's just my opinion on how Bama can do. We'll find out for sure soon enough.

I think LSU will win the west regardless of how good or how bad the Tide will be in 2009.

This post was edited on 3/13/09 at 1:51 am
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 3/13/09 at 1:55 am to
Prepare to be a bit disappointed.
Posted by Alahunter
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Posted on 3/13/09 at 9:15 am to
quote:

UT and UA were tied at the top for total defense.


Only in yards per game. In scoring defense it was:

Fl 12.9
Bama 14.3
Tn 16.8

quote:

And with respect, there's no way you can compare LSU's QB play with the Tide's. Jefferson threw as many passes in three quarters last year as McElroy has in three years. Look it up if you don't believe me.


I believe you on how many throws he had. Let's take a look though:

5-7 Arky team, he was 9 for 21 143 yds. Rushed 19 times for 50 yards. Not exactly great stats especially in a loss to them.

9-4 Ga.Tech team, he was 16 for 25 142 yds. Rushed 10 times for 25 yards.

Thats a combined 25 for 46 yds passing. 29 Rushes for 75 yards. Quite mediocre against less than stellar competition. Now, before I'm blasted, I think he has great potential and could quite possibly do excellant this year. The thing is, yall lost 5 players on defense and have a new QB. There will be trasition time for JJ going through an entire season and to expect or argue he is a seasoned QB while blasting us for having a new QB is just crazy.

I expect us both to have solid seasons, but there are questions for both teams. This, imo, could be the year Ole Miss could potentially get both of us if Nutt doesn't choke it away. They will have a solid defense and they have, I think the best QB in the west as it stands today.

Posted by BamaPompous
Member since Mar 2009
395 posts
Posted on 3/13/09 at 9:23 am to
The difference is that LSU has had a lot better talent than any of the other West teams. They had better talent than Bama last year. Bama smoked them by 5 games in the West. With Bamas talent getting immensely better, and LSUs staying the same, why would you think LSU can compete with Bama? Bama has a much more favorable schedule this year. Has LSU closed the coaching gap that much with the Chavis hire? I don't think so.
Posted by starlight
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Posted on 3/13/09 at 9:32 am to
Anywhere from 2 to 4 losses. I am going with you finishing 3rd in the west. I also predicted ya'll to win it this time last year.
Posted by LuckyLee
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Posted on 3/13/09 at 9:33 am to
quote:

HeartOfGeauxld


Posted by Elleshoe
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Posted on 3/13/09 at 9:34 am to
quote:

I expect us to go 11-1 in the regular season.



Posted by Crimsonpanther13
Somewhere in Avoyelles Parish
Member since Oct 2008
7346 posts
Posted on 3/13/09 at 9:38 am to
Bama's question marks for '09.

QB-I'm not worried about it. The guy was a record breaking QB high school ball....in TX. Now that doesn't make him a shoe in, but I think he'll have no problems til he proves me wrong.

RB-This will not be a problem for us. Not even a little bit. We are stacked here.

O-line- This is the big "?". The success of this rebuilt unit will make or break us.
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90742 posts
Posted on 3/13/09 at 9:43 am to
quote:

O-line- This is the big "?". The success of this rebuilt unit will make or break us.


I agree. LT and Center will be the big question marks. We'll have help at TE with Colin Peek stepping in. If we can get some decent folks to fill in these two spots I think we'll be in ok shape.

Here is a little bit of info on Colin Peek:

Height / Weight:
6-6 / 247

Position:
Tight End



2007 (Sophomore): Peek started 11 games for the Yellow Jackets as a sophomore in 2007 ... did not start two games when the Jackets began in a three-wide receiver set ... ranked third on the team in receptions with 25 ... tallied 248 yards receiving and caught one touchdown pass ... caught at least one pass in 10 of 13 games, including each of the first eight games of ht year ... had a career-high five receptions for 35 yards vs. Boston College on Sept. 15, including a long of 15 yards ... hauled in three passes for 31 yards at Maryland on Oct. 6 ... two catches vs. Army on Oct. 20 went for 49 yards and included a career-long 37-yard reception ... caught three passes for 28 yards vs. Georgia with a touchdown on Nov. 24 ... the 17-yard touchdown strike from Taylor Bennett gave the Jackets a 14-10 lead with two minutes left in the first half.

LINK
Posted by Crimsonpanther13
Somewhere in Avoyelles Parish
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 3/13/09 at 9:48 am to
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Alahunter


You think Peek will start over Smelley? Or the other way around? Or about equal playing time?
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