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re: Bama fans, how confident are you with the Mac attack?

Posted on 6/9/20 at 5:47 am to
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 6/9/20 at 5:47 am to
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The offense might depend on how good is the defense. If your defense can't consistently stop the other team from moving the ball and scoring a lot of points then a ball control run first offense probably won't win it all these days. 



Which is why Alabama changed in the first place.

These modern offenses are nearly impossible to completely shut down.

Alabama isn't going back to ground and pound any time soon.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30592 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 10:00 am to
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Honestly, I’m interested to see if Bama goes back to the ground and pound style that got them where they are today. I hope they don’t, because it leaves room for other west schools to beat them throwing the ball around like that, but if they are dominant on the ground and rule the ToP then we may all be screwed this season.

With probably the best Oline in the country and a stable of running backs as good as you'll find, Saban would be a fool not to take a run first approach....and we all KNOW that Coach Saban ain't no fool!
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52367 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 10:02 am to
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With probably the best Oline in the country and a stable of running backs as good as you'll find, Saban would be a fool not to take a run firstapproach....and we all KNOW that Coach Saban ain't no fool!





This is a foolish opinion though.
Posted by coachcrisp
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Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 6/9/20 at 10:09 am to

Coming from you, I take that as a compliment.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52367 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 10:19 am to
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Coming from you, I take that as a compliment.


Sure you do.

Now run along and do some research as to why Saban switched offensive philosophies and you'll understand that they aren't going to back to ground and pound anytime soon.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30592 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 10:58 am to
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Sure you do.

Now run along and do some research as to why Saban switched offensive philosophies and you'll understand that they aren't going to back to ground and pound anytime soon.

You really are one stupid motherfricker. Ball control is the BEST defense a team can play, fool! Saban won more Nat'l Championships with a "run first" offense than you've got inches of dick. Their running game will bring the secondary up and they'll burn'em with their receivers.
You're obviously too stupid to realize the best way to keep your opponent from scoring is to not let them have the ball!
This post was edited on 6/9/20 at 11:00 am
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52367 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 11:09 am to
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Ball control is the BEST defense a team can play, fool! 


bullshite, if it takes you 15 plays to score and the other team can score in 5, you're fricked.

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Saban won more Nat'l Championships with a "run first" offense than you've got inches of dick. 


You say this like you've been looking at my dick or something.

Now lets look into why Saban changed, shall we?

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"After that play, Coach Saban basically said, 'I can't defend that,'" said Barrett Jones, a former Alabama offensive lineman who is now an ESPN college football analyst. "When the offensive linemen show run for three or four seconds and the quarterback gets to the edge, it forces the defensive back to run up at the quarterback or stay with the wide receiver. Saban just said, 'I've got to a run a style of offense like that.'"


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The play also changed Alabama's defensive philosophy. When Alabama won the national championship in 2011, the defense was on the field for about eight hundred plays—and faced only five run-pass option plays. But by the end of 2013, the RPO had become a common offensive play. How did Saban and the Tide respond? They changed the type of defender they wanted.


You should do less name calling and more research.


Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30592 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 11:20 am to
The RPO is a combination of both. Check the yds rushing per game against yrs passing for teams who are heavy RPO offenses, genius!
Also, Saban"s complaint was about the Olinemen being allowed to move too far downfield while the QB optioned to pass. Your "research" is shite, Scooter....don't even start to argue football with me.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52367 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 11:22 am to
You said Alabama should get back to "run first" which to me means how they pounded the ball in 2011 and years like that.

That shite is gone, Grandpa.

Luckily for you, Saban is smarter than the majority of your fanbase and quickly understood that.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30592 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 11:34 am to
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which to me means
That's where you fricked up, clown. The RPO IS actually a "run first" system. The QB reads the defense with the first option being the run and he has the option to throw if that's what the defense gives him. 9 out of 10 coaches would say run if you gave them the choice to have Alabama's Oline and backs over just a good passing offense.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52367 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 11:41 am to
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That's where you fricked up, clown. The RPO IS actually a "run first" system. The QB reads the defense with the first option being the run and he has the option to throw if that's what the defense gives him. 9 out of 10 coaches would say run if you gave them the choice to have Alabama's Oline and backs over just a good passing offense.


An RPO isnt run first at all, its literally whatever the quarterback decides.

You didnt mean an RPO offense though, you meant I formation pound the ball ball control offense.
This post was edited on 6/9/20 at 11:49 am
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30592 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 12:17 pm to
The 1st move the QB makes is to the back coming across him, and he'll give it to him nearly 100% of the time if the defense doesn't have at least 6 men in the box. That's a run first option! If there's an extra LB in, or a defensive back comes down into the box, then the best option may be the pass. Anything you and I have left to say on the subject is a waste of our time.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52367 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 12:19 pm to
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Anything you and I have left to say on the subject is a waste of our time.


Okay, you still werent referring to RPOs though.

Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30592 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 12:21 pm to
I guess I was right about you being a clown...just look up.
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 12:23 pm to
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The 1st move the QB makes is to the back coming across him, and he'll give it to him nearly 100% of the time if the defense doesn't have at least 6 men in the box. That's a run first option! If there's an extra LB in, or a defensive back comes down into the box, then the best option may be the pass. Anything you and I have left to say on the subject is a waste of our time.



Won't matter....ya'll can run whatever you want...we still gonna tap that arse in TS this season!!
Posted by DoubleDown
New Orleans, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2008
12865 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 12:30 pm to
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Coker II


Hell YES! National Championship, here. we. come.
Posted by 3morereps
The Gym
Member since Jun 2015
6735 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 12:30 pm to
not like he will throw two pick sixes and lose to auburn
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52367 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 12:32 pm to
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I guess I was right about you being a clown...just look up.


You referenced Saban winning multiple championships with a "run first offense", therefore its clear you were referring to the offense Saban has had a majority of his success with.

OP also mentioned something along those lines and you agreed with him.

We all know what you really want, I've heard multiple Bammers say it. Like I said though, good thing for you Saban is smarter than the majority of your fanbase.
This post was edited on 6/9/20 at 12:33 pm
Posted by PokeyTiger
New Iberia
Member since Apr 2020
1968 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 1:57 pm to

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You really are one stupid motherfricker.
He’s not actually! I’ve seen quasi-literate Gump Posers like you here in my short time on this forum but you take the cake. You’re thinking is as outdated as that 44-16 whippin’ and a Pete Golden & Cutty Sark Offensive Clown Show! Ok mutual insults are out the way now, mine without the profanity of the obviously ignorant.

Let’s dissect your quasi-literate comments!
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Ball control is the BEST defense a team can play, fool

Used to be — Not anymore! Except at times late in the 2nd and 4th quarters to run clock
Your “Outdated thinking” versus the LSU Saints Hybrid Passing Attack with a PASS FIRST mentality was measured and found “WANTING” ... The game is far too complex now for such outdated thinking. How did the ball control offenses of Kirby and Cutty Sark play out in 2020 versus LSU’s Saints Hybrid “Passing Attack FIRST” ... How’d that work out for them! Please answer the question!
You still got CHOCOLATE LIPS BAW?
You know what CHOCOLATE LIPS are?

In your outdated version of “Used to be CFB” a ball control offense WAS (Past tense) a great way to play defense when teams passed 30-40 or so % of the time. Scoring is so quick now with vertical game efficiency that Ball Control Offenses FAIL MISERABLY in keeping up with Passing FIRST Hybrid Attacks. Any Great Modern Defensive Coach knows NOW that you gotta limit explosive plays and EVEN ALLOW Ball Control Off the yardage in attempts to prevent explosive play and scoring, this based on personnel skill set evaluations and opponent tendencies (Dn & distance) and in areas such as Red Zone.

Knowing our explosive Saints LSU hybrid PASSING FIRST Offense cannot be stopped, we pass to our RBs on first down rather than run first.

Only when you’re back on your heels will we gash you with a RB or let the QB run.

New age CFB has passed you by Sir like a fart in the wind. It’s not your fault, but then you don’t think like Sean Payton.

Ball Control WAS the MUST PLAY when your dee sucks at a level of a Pete Golden dee.

But Chocolate Lips, how bad did that Pete Golden Dee suck last year?

And it’s MAGICALLY gonna get better?

Still never got the numbers on that offense that ran you over in 2019.

You get a replay in 2020 with 2019 LSU Subs stomping a mud hole in Pete Golden’s Gravy Train.

You can drink heavily knowing Cutty Sark won’t get it done against a Pelini Dee and BALL CONTROL offense is a joke.

Watch a SF Saints playoff game once in a while and LEARN SOMETHING.

The Spread and Shred (what LSU runs) is predicated on the number of explosive plays and is a

BALL CONTROL HYBRID 60%+ PASS FIRST ATTACK W/FOCUS ON EXPLOSIVE PLAYS AND MISMATCHES TO SETS UP EXPLOSIVE RUNS NOT TO MAKE RUN FIRST AN OPTION unless they wanna burn clock

You watch too much garbage Atlanta Falcon FB on Sundays. When this CFB evolution of an offense predicated on 60% passing rips you a new one again, you can squeal again in 2020 with CHOCOLATE LIPS for all to see.

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Saban won more Nat'l Championships with a "run first" offense than you've got inches of dick.


How you know he doesn’t swing 8 inches, that’s kinda “MO” of you to say that huh Clown Crisp, referring to a lad’s endowment

WON = PAST TENSE AS IN PAST IT @ 69
Irrelevant since 2015, except for 1 Hail Mary, you’re Best days and Saban’s are PAST TENSE CHOCOLATE LIPS

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Their running game will bring the secondary up and they'll burn'em with their receivers. You're obviously too stupid to realize the best way to keep your opponent from scoring is to not let them have the ball!


Repeating an OLD OUTDATED ADAGE over and over and over does not make it true, ask uncle Nick, lol.

It’s been a Pleasure to School you, Gump!

You can join Clown George as one of the BIGGEST POSERS in SEC Rant! We dub thee CLOWN CRISP!

Chocolate Lips, aka Clown Crisp, you are dismissed!
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 2:01 pm to
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You can join Clown George as one of the BIGGEST POSERS in SEC Rant! We dub thee CLOWN CRISP!


Your creepy old man obsession with me (literally talking about me in almost every post I see) is borderline stalkerish.
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