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re: Bama = #1 in Winning Percentage and #2 in All-Time Wins

Posted on 1/13/19 at 7:06 pm to
Posted by bamaboy87
Member since Jan 2009
15163 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 7:06 pm to
It doesn't change that it actually happened. But it doesn't count in our record books. You are being ridiculous. You know good and well that they can do that and you're using ridiculous and childish logic to pretend otherwise.
Posted by A Lite
Member since Jan 2016
2401 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 7:11 pm to
quote:

I think vacating wins is the dumbest thing ever. It doesn't change what happened on the field. But those wins are no longer in our records


What do you mean, they are no longer in our records? I just glanced at the 2016 Alabama Record Book and it says this:

quote:

Shula’s actual record was 26-23 (.531); Saban’s actual record is 119-19 (.862). Actual Program Record is 907-318-44 (.732) (1,269 games played).
Actual bowl game record is 38-24-3. * No team was fielded in 1898, 1918 and 1943. ^Interim Head Coach. #included three postseason “bowl” games following 2016 season as part of Col-
lege Football Playoff.


Seems like they are still being counted to me. I was wrong about Alabama's record though. If you add 13 wins in 2017 and 14 wins in 2018 to 907 and tack on the two loses, it comes out to 934-320-44.

That puts us only 19 games behind Michigan in total wins and, of course, still beating them in winning percentage.

In recalculating Saban's record to include the '17 and '18 seasons, we come out at 146-21 @ .874.

Damn, that is amazing.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35511 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 7:18 pm to
Ohio State 924-326
Alabama 919-330

You want to do the math, Clark? Or do you want me to do it for you?
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35511 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 7:23 pm to
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What is 28 added to 905?


What is 12 added to 924? The answer is more than you have.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35511 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 7:26 pm to
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I simply stated that Alabama was #1 in winning percentage and #2 in wins.


And you're wrong. And if you add in our vacated wins and your vacated wins you are STILL WRONG.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 7:30 pm to
You expect a Bammer to know how to do math?
Posted by bamaboy87
Member since Jan 2009
15163 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 7:35 pm to
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And you're wrong. And if you add in our vacated wins and your vacated wins you are STILL WRONG


You're not wrong. But he is also counting our forfeits from the 1993 season.

Edit: which would put us at 942 with everything added back in and ohio state with 936(I believe?)
This post was edited on 1/13/19 at 7:40 pm
Posted by AuburnCO08
Member since Nov 2017
891 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 7:39 pm to
The king hillbilly on display. I’m gonna set the o/u on A Lite’s education at completed 7th grade.
Posted by bamaboy87
Member since Jan 2009
15163 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 7:41 pm to
Dont insult 7th graders like that. His arguing skills are roughly 7th grade level though.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35511 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 7:42 pm to
Counting the Alabama forfeits and the Ohio State vacated wins Ohio State still has 3 more wins and of all the teams in college football Ohio State is the hardest one to catch up with that is ahead of Alabama. Let's face it. Michigan is coming back to the field.

The interesting thing to me is that Mount Union (D3) is 16th in total wins with 798.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35511 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 7:43 pm to
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Edit: which would put us at 942 with everything added back in and ohio state with 936(I believe?)


Gotcha

Two storied programs for sure.
Posted by A Lite
Member since Jan 2016
2401 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 8:19 pm to
quote:

Dont insult 7th graders like that. His arguing skills are roughly 7th grade level though.


You dumb shite. I have already presented you the numbers from Alabama's records for the year 2016.

They are:

Actual Program Record is 907-318-44 (.732) (1,269 games played).

Add 13 games in 2017 and 14 in 2018 and you get this:

934-320-44.

What don't you backward imbeciles not understand?

Posted by A Lite
Member since Jan 2016
2401 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 8:25 pm to
quote:

What is 12 added to 924? The answer is more than you have.


Ohio State has 924 wins total, with the 13 vacated wins added. Without the 13 vacated wins, they have 911.

Where do all of you idiots come from? You got it exactly backwards. Geez.
This post was edited on 1/13/19 at 8:26 pm
Posted by A Lite
Member since Jan 2016
2401 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 8:27 pm to
quote:

Gotcha

Two storied programs for sure.


You don't gotcha nothing, except wrong information.
This post was edited on 1/13/19 at 8:28 pm
Posted by A Lite
Member since Jan 2016
2401 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 8:29 pm to
quote:

Counting the Alabama forfeits and the Ohio State vacated wins Ohio State still has 3 more wins and of all the teams in college football Ohio State is the hardest one to catch up with that is ahead of Alabama. Let's face it. Michigan is coming back to the field.


You don't have a clue as to what you are talking about.
This post was edited on 1/13/19 at 8:42 pm
Posted by bamaboy87
Member since Jan 2009
15163 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 8:30 pm to
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934-320-43.

What don't you backward imbeciles not understand?


What do you not understand? Take out 21 vacated wins and 8 forfeits. Record is 905-328-44

934-21 = 913
913-8 = 905

320+8 = 328
Posted by A Lite
Member since Jan 2016
2401 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 8:31 pm to
quote:

You're not wrong. But he is also counting our forfeits from the 1993 season. Edit: which would put us at 942 with everything added back in and ohio state with 936(I believe?)


There is no possible way to count Alabama at having 942 wins. You are wrong.

Nothing you have said is correct. Ohio state has 924 wins on the field. 911 if counting the 13 vacated.

Stop spouting out numbers like you know what you are talking about.
Posted by bamaboy87
Member since Jan 2009
15163 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 8:34 pm to
My math was off. But so is yours. Your numbers are counting the 21 vacated wins and 8 forfeits. You're counting the "on the field" record
Posted by A Lite
Member since Jan 2016
2401 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 8:49 pm to
Your math is off and mine is not. Sorry about that. Just admit you are wrong and move along.

My original post is correct. We are #2 in all time wins and #1 in winning percentage.

To help you along, I will provide you a link to Alabama's Record Book.pdf which is here:

Alabama's Record Book 2016

Download the .pdf and proceed to the bottom of page 160 and you will see this:

quote:

Wins later vacated by NCAA ruling. Shula’s actual record was 26-23 (.531); Saban’s actual record is 119-19 (.862). Actual Program Record is 907-318-44 (.732) (1,269 games played). Actual bowl game record is 38-24-3. * No team was fielded in 1898, 1918 and 1943. ^Interim Head Coach. #included three postseason “bowl” games following 2016 season as part of Col- lege Football Playoff.


If you can manage that, try to then add 13 wins in 2017 and 14 wins in 2018 along with 2 total loses during those two seasons.

If a miracle occurs and you get it right, you will come out with this:

934-320-44

Try all of that and then come back and apologize for being a moron and we can continue more civilly.
This post was edited on 1/13/19 at 8:51 pm
Posted by bamaboy87
Member since Jan 2009
15163 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 8:54 pm to
"Actual program record" means wins on the field before vacates and forfeits

Winsipedia

Record WITH THE VACATES AND FORFEITS IS 905 WINS
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