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re: Bad news for college football

Posted on 7/1/20 at 9:52 pm to
Posted by s2
Southdowns
Member since Sep 2016
5565 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 9:52 pm to
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Do you political guys ever get tired of pointing fingers, assigning blame and calling the other side names? It's exhausting just reading it on the sports boards. I can't imagine actually doing this stuff day in and day out.
you need to direct your comments to the political board.

this board is reserved for sports.

Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47824 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 11:23 pm to
I mean we already lost out on the entire postseason for NCAAB and the CWS, but losing football is a whole new world of hurt. The NCAA will likely cease to exist if it isn’t played, and the paradigms we are all used to regarding spending on athletics will be fundamentally changed.
This post was edited on 7/1/20 at 11:24 pm
Posted by Mithridates6
Member since Oct 2019
8220 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 11:24 pm to
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The NCAA will likely cease to exist if it isn’t played

So you're saying there's some silver lining here?
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47824 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 11:28 pm to
Yes. The NCAA is a joke of an organization. Sadly I am so jaded I’m not sure any entity that replaces them isn’t destined to become just as corrupt and useless.
Posted by PeeJayScammedGT
Kennesaw, GA
Member since Oct 2019
2148 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 11:40 pm to
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At this point it looks pretty grim for college football this year. The bigger problem is the pendulum is about to swing against big budgets for athletic programs, huge salaries for coaches, etc... Going to be some huge deficits in sports because all of the costs of college sports except for travel costs are basically still there with no revenue to offset them.

This is growing into a serious problem. Don't underestimate the number of people in academia that are against sports in general. They are about to pounce because there is blood in the water

So who do we blame for creating a system where 100% of the financial viability of the Athl Dept falls at the feet of JUST 100 ATHLETES in only 2 Sports (85 FB + 13 MBB Players)

If all those bad things happen above maybe the Athl Depts are getting what they deserve for creating such a fragile financial ecosystem for P5 College Sports

A long time ago (maybe 30 years) the burden for non Revenue Sports to at least operate at break-even should have been instituted, but that didn't happen, WHY......?

Because Big time College Sports had an unending supply of poor Black Males with very little Political backing that they could easily take advantage of with no one to step in and present the Players side to create a more fair distribution of the monies generated, NOPE, all that ever happened was the NCAA would send out a grey haired white male to wax poetic about the virtues of amateurism and mention that the Players were getting degrees and what a great deal it was for the Players

This cv19 and this current political climate is giving the NCAA what they deserve for not creating a more fair system years ago when the TV Money began to explode

Karma is coming to a lot of Athl Dept assholes and NCAA assholes for all the shady shite they've done over the years

I'd love to see this FB Season not be Played and the next MBB Season and another lost March Madness-----totally destroy the system down to the timbers and hopefully they'll rebuild it more fairly this time
This post was edited on 7/1/20 at 11:42 pm
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
14022 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 11:41 pm to
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So who do we blame for creating a system where 100% of the financial viability of the Athl Dept falls at the feet of JUST 100 ATHLETES in only 2 Sports (85 FB + 13 MBB Players)


The government and title IX
Posted by LouisvilleKat
Member since Oct 2016
18217 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 11:45 pm to
That sounds like bad news for Carolina football.
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
14022 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 11:47 pm to
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Because Big time College Sports had an unending supply of poor Black Males with very little Political backing that they could easily take advantage of with no one to step in and present the Players side to create a more fair distribution of the monies generated, NOPE, all that ever happened was the NCAA would send out a grey haired white male to wax poetic about the virtues of amateurism and mention that the Players were getting degrees and what a great deal it was for the Players


Hold on so you think the answer that will solve this problem is the universities paying players? How dumb are you?
This post was edited on 7/1/20 at 11:52 pm
Posted by PeeJayScammedGT
Kennesaw, GA
Member since Oct 2019
2148 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 11:54 pm to
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The government and title IX

That's a stretch, heading towards a weak excuse

No one ever FORCED those other Sports to NOT TURN A PROFIT, a buncha lazy arse Athl Dept Admins took the easy way out and said, "don't worry keep on losing Money, the 100 guys over here , majority Black BTW, they'll pick up the slack"

T9 doesn't force a sport to lose money, the individuals in the Athl Dept allow it

Why didn't each AD & each School Prez demand that every Sport on a campus generate at least slightly under break even in order to to be funded , and if the Conference required it, then get the Lawyers involved, no Conference should be able to force a money losing sport onto any Athl Dept

Smart people always have the option of changing bad Rules and bad Laws
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 12:00 am to
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That's a stretch, heading towards a weak excuse

No one ever FORCED those other Sports to NOT TURN A PROFIT, a buncha lazy arse Athl Dept Admins took the easy way out and said, "don't worry keep on losing Money, the 100 guys over here , majority Black BTW, they'll pick up the slack"

T9 doesn't force a sport to lose money, the individuals in the Athl Dept allow it

Why didn't each AD & each School Prez demand that every Sport on a campus generate at least slightly under break even in order to to be funded , and if the Conference required it, then get the Lawyers involved, no Conference should be able to force a money losing sport onto any Athl Dept

Smart people always have the option of changing bad Rules and bad Laws


My god you are all over the place
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
14022 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 12:01 am to
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No one ever FORCED those other Sports to NOT TURN A PROFIT, a buncha lazy arse Athl Dept Admins took the easy way out and said, "don't worry keep on losing Money, the 100 guys over here , majority Black BTW, they'll pick up the slack"


The government literally forces universities to provides athletic scholarships to women at an equal rate to men’s scholarships.

And I don’t see what football players being black has to do with any of this.

The majority of College baseball Players are white and a majority of the time baseball players are only on a quarter of a scholarship. LSU makes money on baseball and can still only provide on average fractions of a scholarship because if they gave out more they would have to give out more woman’s scholarships.
Posted by SkyKing101
Member since Jul 2020
319 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 12:25 am to
You say Demo craps don’t want football

What about sec coach’s working to put the democraps in power ?

Should a sec coach be allowed to come out and promote a certain political party which will upset the other political party

Is there any sec coach that stooopid that has come out to support a political party ?
Posted by PeeJayScammedGT
Kennesaw, GA
Member since Oct 2019
2148 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 1:51 am to
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The government literally forces universities to provides athletic scholarships to women at an equal rate to men’s scholarships.

And I don’t see what football players being black has to do with any of this.

The majority of College baseball Players are white and a majority of the time baseball players are only on a quarter of a scholarship. LSU makes money on baseball and can still only provide on average fractions of a scholarship because if they gave out more they would have to give out more woman’s scholarships.

It's got a shite load to do with it, if you'd ever actually talk to a Revenue Athlete or get to know one

They might not be on track for Ivy League MBAs in Finance, but they know that 2 sports that are Majority Black raise 99% of the Money and those 2 Sports have the entire NCAA Rule Book forced on them placing the most Rules on their Sports giving them the least amount of "freedom & flexibility" among College Sports, in fact for many years a Female Athlete could transfer without having to sit out at her new school

They might have changed that for WBB in recent years

You THINK LSU makes money on Baseball, what is it $300K maybe $400K tops, it ain't like LSU Baseball is profiting $5million plus each year

The NCAA sets Baseball at 13.5 schollies or something close to that, with 1/3 schollies per player that would be a Team of 40.5 players

The LSU Baseball Coach should be able to get by with 30 players on the squad and that would be a little more than 1/3 full scholly per player

That's on LSUs Baseball Coach to not carry dead weight patronage partial schollies on the Team to keep connected Alums happy

Cut that down to 30 players and everyone gets . 45 of a full scholly

At 13.5 times a 1/4 scholly that would be 54 guys on the Baseball Team, wayyy too many

As far as the Govt forcing something ---get the lawyers involved, most folks haven't read the Law on T9, when it was first written it was about EQUAL ACCESS TO FACILITIES, i. e. If you have a weight room or gym or a baseball field, then you have to provide the same level or class facility for women's sports, but then as REVENUES EXPLODED , T9 morphed into wealth transference rather than equal access to facilities

It went from give womens Sports the same caliber of facilities as the men's sports to let's get the Black Athletes to raise Millions and then we'll transfer the money to women's sports & other sports and eliminate the burden on them from ever having to be financially viable

IMO once you have equal access to Facilities then it's up to you to create an exciting sport and generate your own revenues

IMO they need to get Lawyers involved to get T9 back to what it was intended to be, give the women equal facilities and let them sink or swim on their own

And that's why the Revenue Athletes have to get larger stipends, if they don't then the current system is racist as hell and close to modern day sharecropping

No Sport(s) should be FORCED to pay the freight for any other Sport(s)

I know , you guys just want to be entertained, to hell with all the socioeconomic and racial Politics surrounding P5 College Sports, that ship sailed when HC salaries broke the $3million mark
This post was edited on 7/2/20 at 7:02 am
Posted by Paul Maul number 37
Member since Feb 2009
1111 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 2:37 am to
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And that's why the Revenue Athletes have to get larger stipends, if they don't then the current system is racist as hell and close to modern day sharecropping

This is stupidity on steroids. The opportunities that free college education and a shot at making millions of dollars in the pros provide are some of the best things available to young black athletes. End the system and this all goes away. The biggest losers are the young black athletes. By Far.
Posted by PokeyTiger
New Iberia
Member since Apr 2020
1968 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 3:21 am to
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that ship sailed when HC salaries broke the $3million mark


All thanks to:

Who? greedy Sabah? Sexton? Baby Bear?

Name your ckskr

Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
14022 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 5:45 am to
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You THINK LSU makes money on Baseball, what is it $300K maybe $400K tops, it ain't like LSU Baseball is profiting $5million plus each year


I know LSU makes a profit on baseball. In 2019 baseball profited $464,109. Why are you so sure it wouldn’t be $5 million?
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
23899 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 5:53 am to
We were going to suck anyway, so no big loss.

Also. F Clemson.
Posted by Carolina_Girl
South Cackalacky
Member since Apr 2012
23973 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 5:56 am to
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That sounds like bad news for Carolina football.



Is there ever any other kind of news for Carolina football?
Posted by buckfammer
Auburn, AL
Member since Dec 2019
1390 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 6:11 am to
Always about race with you, fig.
Posted by PeeJayScammedGT
Kennesaw, GA
Member since Oct 2019
2148 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 6:13 am to
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Hold on so you think the answer that will solve this problem is the universities paying players? How dumb are you?

C'mon dude stop being stupid.

Issue the ultimatum and "force their hand"

Be more fair and pay the Revenue Athletes or force the non Revenue Sports to get to break-even and get off welfare making the system more even, the choice is yours

As it stands now, P5 College Sports might be the most unfair shite in America right now ---and before you say something stupid grossing $100million plus from 2 sports in exchange for a Bachelor's Degree and POTENTIAL LIFELONG INJURIES ain't a great deal, when the Athletes in other Sports at the same College don't have to produce at a similar level

Have you ever asked yourself what's so fricking special about the non Revenue Sports that they get to lose money into perpetuity, with no initiative for them to ever show 1 fricking cent of Profit, ever?

See , you're so emotional, you're blinded to how things really work, I never said anything about the University paying any player, the Athl Depts will give them larger stipends to make a rigged arse system more fair

BTW here's an article for the idiots that believe P5 Athl Depts are broke or barely getting by:

For the Naive Idiots that think P5 Athl Depts are Broke
This post was edited on 7/2/20 at 7:09 am
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