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re: Auburns offense
Posted on 8/24/09 at 12:51 pm to Alahunter
Posted on 8/24/09 at 12:51 pm to Alahunter
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So you have receivers so incompetent that they have to be taught this, yet they're going to be middle of the road this year. With a QB that is still not proven and an O-line that couldn't keep from getting false starts if their lives depended on it last year.
Ziemba got the false starts last season due to a bad knee that he had surgery on right after the season was done. He is now 320 instead of 280 like he was last season, he'll be among the best LTs in the SEC this season.
The receivers were not being taught the techniques, they had the one maybe two that they were taught in highschool that is it. Knox focused only on downfield block coaching and that was not very good. Our receivers are very good but never coached on how to play receiver properly. CTT spent spring going through the fundamentals with them and teaching them the three main techniques used at their position then coaching them to block downfield properly to the point they are good at that.
Todd has connected on several 40 yard passes and I mean the ball was in the air 40 yards and it wasn't a lame duck it was a good pass. His arm strength is back and looking very very good.
Middle of the road is 60th in football give or take, that would be a massive improvement over the last 3 seasons. You are forgetting how poor the offense has played under Tubs overall and how far it has fallen.
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Posted on 8/24/09 at 12:54 pm to rangers911
Think about this.
Your LB is very questionable due to depth. Your CB the same. Injuries are going to happen and the defense will not be as good as it's been. That is going to affect the offense also. Your O-line has no depth either. There are too many factors that will likely be against alot of improvement this season on offense.
Your LB is very questionable due to depth. Your CB the same. Injuries are going to happen and the defense will not be as good as it's been. That is going to affect the offense also. Your O-line has no depth either. There are too many factors that will likely be against alot of improvement this season on offense.
Posted on 8/24/09 at 12:55 pm to Alahunter
Dude... you crack me up...
You say Malzahn hasn't faced any defenses while at Tulsa.... who the fk did McElwain face while he was at Fresno?... now he's an offensive genius to you bammers. Malzahn has actually coached in the SEC before.
Oh, and BTW, who has "proven" to throw the ball downfield at bammer?...NOBODY!
You act like us aubies are expecting a top 10 offense. That simply isn't the case, and this thread PROVES that... top 60 and improved fundamentals seem to be the consensus.
You say Malzahn hasn't faced any defenses while at Tulsa.... who the fk did McElwain face while he was at Fresno?... now he's an offensive genius to you bammers. Malzahn has actually coached in the SEC before.
Oh, and BTW, who has "proven" to throw the ball downfield at bammer?...NOBODY!
You act like us aubies are expecting a top 10 offense. That simply isn't the case, and this thread PROVES that... top 60 and improved fundamentals seem to be the consensus.
Posted on 8/24/09 at 1:01 pm to lowspark12
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Your LB is very questionable due to depth. Your CB the same. Injuries are going to happen and the defense will not be as good as it's been. That is going to affect the offense also. Your O-line has no depth either. There are too many factors that will likely be against alot of improvement this season on offense.
CB and safety are deep at AU, those are the spots we actually have solid depth at so you are wrong there.
I am concerned about the LB depth but that will depend upon injuries. As I've posted before Roof preaches velocity on hits he wants big hard hits and he's getting them. Our linebackers are bigger now than in recent years under Tubs so they are more durable but that is a lot to ask to not have injuries at the LB position.
We have depth at RT, Guard, and a decent backup center; that said you never want to lose your center mid season. The one spot we don't have a good backup on the offensive line is LT where Ziemba is that is why he stayed in last season due to his injury, that and Nall is stubborn as hell and never rotates at the Tackles.
I agree if the injury bug hits AU at those spots it could be a long season but if not AU could have a very good season. You also have to remember AU had its 1993 season with 5 quality SEC linebackers on the team so keep that in mind as well. Just because you are shallow doesn't mean you have nothing. Last season AU had the worst set of injuries I've ever seen with 40+ players missing part of a game due to injuries we are now faced with the fact several of those were career ending injuries. It will take us another recruiting class to get the depth back but that doesn't mean the team won't improve that is looking through crimson glasses.
Posted on 8/24/09 at 1:02 pm to lowspark12
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That simply isn't the case, and this thread PROVES that... top 60 and improved fundamentals seem to be the consensus.
you're expecting to improve by 47 spots on offense with no proven QB, no depth on the Oline.. receivers that yall are having to teach fundamentals to, and you want to call me delusional for pointing out that?
Posted on 8/24/09 at 1:14 pm to Chimlim
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Umm....no. Fannin is good, but nowhere near a Percy Harvin.
He won't get the hype that Harvin did.. but he's a similar talent. When he gets touches good things happen.
This post was edited on 8/24/09 at 1:14 pm
Posted on 8/24/09 at 1:24 pm to Alahunter
I know you'll never understand this (and there's really no use in trying to)....
your offense last year was in the mid-60s with a new OC, no depth on the OL, and no proven WRs... is it such a stretch to think Auburn can have similar success? Remember how god-awful bammer's pseudo-spread was in 2007?
your offense last year was in the mid-60s with a new OC, no depth on the OL, and no proven WRs... is it such a stretch to think Auburn can have similar success? Remember how god-awful bammer's pseudo-spread was in 2007?
Posted on 8/24/09 at 2:13 pm to Alahunter
but this year I bet they hang 5 points on Mississippi State which will be a sing that they have turned the corner under Chizik.
Posted on 8/24/09 at 2:20 pm to BamaScoop
Posted on 8/24/09 at 2:20 pm to Alahunter
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More than double production? 107 to 50, for real?
Alahunter, I know u might not be the brigthest person in the world, but if a team goes from 107 to 50 in offensive production dont mean they will "double their production"
I know 107 is more than double than 50, but the actual ranking dont meant they'll double their production.
Posted on 8/24/09 at 2:39 pm to bmy
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He won't get the hype that Harvin did.. but he's a similar talent. When he gets touches good things happen.
Fannin is good but he has nowhere near the talent of Harvin. Fannin's problems last year was not only the lack of a quality OL and steady QB but he fumbled too much.
Malzahn is good but all we have to base his success on is a great HS record and him beating up on hapless defenses while at Tulsa. Most Arky fans say that Nutt called the plays but some people give Malzahn credit for the good offensive production. Any team will Jones and McFadden would have been awesome that year.
AU will be improved on offense this year but Malzahn is still unproven in the SEC IMO.
Posted on 8/24/09 at 2:43 pm to rolltide1283
LOL people loves to say "yeah Malzahn moved the ball against hapless defenses in the CUSA", but cant do it against SEC defenses.
Tulsa played Arkansas last year (SEC D) along with a host of other SEC teams.
Guess what team put up the most yds against Arky last year? I'll give you a hint, it wasn't Florida.
Tulsa played Arkansas last year (SEC D) along with a host of other SEC teams.
Guess what team put up the most yds against Arky last year? I'll give you a hint, it wasn't Florida.
Posted on 8/24/09 at 2:52 pm to rolltide1283
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Fannin is good but he has nowhere near the talent of Harvin. Fannin's problems last year was not only the lack of a quality OL and steady QB but he fumbled too much.
He'll be a junior this coming year.. put him in UFs program and I think you see similar results.
I don't think Auburn is going to be very good this year.. but Fannin impresses me to no end. He'll be playing on sundays for sure. 3 clips in this short video of him..
LINK
This post was edited on 8/24/09 at 2:58 pm
Posted on 8/24/09 at 2:57 pm to CFBFAN1121
I don't have the game by game statistics in front of me but all that matters is which team scores the most. Tulsa scored 23 on Ark last year, whereas, most SEC teams scored more than 23 on Ark last year.
I'm not saying Malzahn won't succeed because he will. However he's not the savior some of y'all make him out to be. Trooper Taylor is Chizik's best hire IMO.
I'm not saying Malzahn won't succeed because he will. However he's not the savior some of y'all make him out to be. Trooper Taylor is Chizik's best hire IMO.
Posted on 8/24/09 at 2:59 pm to bmy
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He'll be a junior this coming year.. put him in UFs program and I think you see similar results.
You may be right. He's good but we'll have to see how he does the next 2 years before we compare him to Harvin.
Posted on 8/24/09 at 3:01 pm to rolltide1283
ONTERIO MCCALEBB
Posted on 8/24/09 at 3:01 pm to rolltide1283
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Trooper Taylor is Chizik's best hire IMO.
That I'll agree with. TT is the best receiver coach I've seen and I'm around a lot where I'm at. Gus will get a lot of credit but the receiver coaching is the main reason the offense will work well.
Posted on 8/24/09 at 3:07 pm to rolltide1283
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I don't have the game by game statistics in front of me but all that matters is which team scores the most
When it comes to W/L record, yeah who scored the most points is what counts. But your argument is that the only reason Malzahn was successful is b/c he was playing against CUSA defenses.
Tulsa lost against Arky because of 4 huge turnovers, not because they couldn't move the ball. Tulsa had 550 yds of offense against Arky.
No other SEC team other UF even sniffed that amt of production against Arky.
Posted on 8/24/09 at 3:13 pm to CFBFAN1121
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When it comes to W/L record, yeah who scored the most points is what counts. But your argument is that the only reason Malzahn was successful is b/c he was playing against CUSA defenses.
Tulsa lost against Arky because of 4 huge turnovers, not because they couldn't move the ball. Tulsa had 550 yds of offense against Arky.
No other SEC team other UF even sniffed that amt of production against Arky.
The only game I can comment on with absolute assurance is the Bama/Ark game and we had no trouble moving the ball on them. Our D kept the ball away from our O alot though because they returned 3 INT for TDs giving them the ball more and our 2nd and 3rd team played most of the 2nd half.
On a side note, I wouldn't call the Ark defense tought last year. Petrino is an offensive guy and they didn't care about defense last year. Hell, MSU scored 30+ against them.
Posted on 8/24/09 at 3:18 pm to Alahunter
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Auburns offense
Will suck again...
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