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re: Auburn Shooting Thread (Updated 6-12) Suspect in Custody
Posted on 6/10/12 at 4:33 pm to dawg4lyfe
Posted on 6/10/12 at 4:33 pm to dawg4lyfe
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IF I'm wrong I apologize, I'll tray to find where I read it.
You did read it. I read it too.
The problem is it is an unconfirmed report cloaked in anonymity, so who knows if it's true or not.
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Posted on 6/10/12 at 4:36 pm to Stanky Legg
FBI has a reward out now.
Christina Chambers ?@chambc1
FBI offering $10,000 reward for DesMonte Leonard, man allegedly responsible for triple homicide #auburn
Christina Chambers ?@chambc1
FBI offering $10,000 reward for DesMonte Leonard, man allegedly responsible for triple homicide #auburn
Posted on 6/10/12 at 4:40 pm to chilld28
His punishment should be putting him on a football field with no pads. Let Reuben Foster in pads destroy this POS.
Posted on 6/10/12 at 4:41 pm to chilld28
Completely hypothetical, but let's say the reports are true and Desmonte got hit over the head with bottles. How would something like that play out in court if he was using self defense? Obviously too many unknowns, but could the bottle thrower get charged with murder if innocent bystanders were killed?
Posted on 6/10/12 at 4:43 pm to UFownstSECsince1950
Nope probably just assault since he wasn't the shooter.
Posted on 6/10/12 at 4:45 pm to chilld28
Ive been camping and just found out... This is horrible
This post was edited on 6/10/12 at 4:46 pm
Posted on 6/10/12 at 4:45 pm to UFownstSECsince1950
quote:I think in Alabama, your life has to be in danger for you to use deadly force. I guess it's really depending on the circumstances.
How would something like that play out in court if he was using self defense?
I know I've been told by sheriff's deputies that even if someone is breaking in that's the case. On the other hand, I was also told to shoot as soon as you know that they are breaking in and drag them into a corner.
Posted on 6/10/12 at 4:45 pm to dawg4lyfe
Wouldn't that be a felony assault charge though? A bottle can be a deadly weapon.....
Again, all hypothetical....bottles are just an unconfirmed report
Again, all hypothetical....bottles are just an unconfirmed report
Posted on 6/10/12 at 4:45 pm to Wahoo
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• The party was held at the pool, but was moved into the adjacent clubhouse because of rain. • He saw approximately 7 Auburn football players at the event — along with a few of their close friends. • He said the incident began when an unidentified football player made comments about the alleged gunman’s date for the party. The unidentified player didn’t back down when asked to do so. • The gunman was hit over the head with a pair of bottles.
If true, this changes everything. If the gunman left the scene and came back to shoot everyone, it is murder. If the football players were talking shite to the gunman's girl, started a fight, hit the gunman over the head with beer bottles, and then the gunman shot them to protect himself, it is self defense. We may have to wait for the facts to come out on this one. Either way...such a tragedy that this could not be solved with fists and instead had to involve weapons used by both sides.
Posted on 6/10/12 at 4:48 pm to Monticello
But if true, he's not helping himself by ditching the getaway vehicle and not turning himself in.
Posted on 6/10/12 at 4:49 pm to Monticello
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Monticello
There's no reason to play armchair lawyer.
Posted on 6/10/12 at 4:50 pm to UFownstSECsince1950
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But if true, he's not helping himself by ditching the getaway vehicle and not turning himself in.
Absolutely. Regardless of murder or self defense, this guy knows he is in trouble (see Zimmerman).
Posted on 6/10/12 at 4:51 pm to Monticello
I'm pretty sure the guy that hit the shooter over the head with bottles wasn't an Auburn football player, FWIW. According to news report that was posted earlier, it was a friend of Pitts, and I believe they listed his name.
eta: LINK
eta: LINK
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Turquorius Vines, 23, said he was at the pool party Saturday evening at the University Heights apartments with one of his friend, Pitts. He said he and his friend were approached by two other men who started arguing with them over a woman.
Vines said he punched one of the men, while Pitts hit both of the men over the head with a bottle. Either one or both of the two men then started shooting, he said. He said his friend was shot and killed, while two others also were hit by gunfire. Vines said he had never before seen the men who he had been arguing with.
This post was edited on 6/10/12 at 4:53 pm
Posted on 6/10/12 at 4:51 pm to Monticello
if the gunman left the scene to get his gun, no way it can be self defense.
Posted on 6/10/12 at 4:52 pm to Stanky Legg
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There's no reason to play armchair lawyer.
Is that not what everyone in here is doing? There may be a flip side to this tragedy and before we wish the wrath of god on this guy, we should first find out if in fact he was being beaten over the head with beer bottles.
Posted on 6/10/12 at 4:52 pm to winyahpercy
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if the gunman left the scene to get his gun, no way it can be self defense.
Very true. That's what we are waiting to find out. This story could end in many ways.
Posted on 6/10/12 at 4:55 pm to Monticello
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There may be a flip side to this tragedy and before we wish the wrath of god on this guy, we should first find out if in fact he was being beaten over the head with beer bottles.
You should probably wait until confirmed reports come out. You are taking various accounts from anonymous sources and piecing together a "what if this, what if that, this justifies that, that changes this" scenario.
If grandma had nuts, she'd be grandpa.
Posted on 6/10/12 at 4:55 pm to audodger
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Vines said he punched one of the men, while Pitts hit both of the men over the head with a bottle. Either one or both of the two men then started shooting, he said.
So now we are getting reports that the shooters fired immediately after being hit by bottles as well as reports that they came back to the scene. We are also getting reports that a football players hit him with a bottle as well as that it was not a football player. This story has so many questions left that none of us can judge anyone. All we can do is pray for the families and hope that justice prevails.
Posted on 6/10/12 at 4:56 pm to Stanky Legg
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If grandma had nuts, she'd be grandpa.
She'd be creepy grandma with nuts to me. And that would never change.
Posted on 6/10/12 at 4:56 pm to Monticello
Evid he didn't leave to get a gun, why did he bring a gun to a pool party? I know that isn't illegal but still why bring it?
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