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re: Auburn Shooting Thread (Updated 6-12) Suspect in Custody

Posted on 6/12/12 at 6:39 pm to
Posted by Gnar Cat21
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Posted on 6/12/12 at 6:39 pm to
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Yes Multiple people hit him Lost teeth, badly bloodied Left area, went to car, came back shooting


So he came to a party he wasn't invited to, started a fight, got beat up, left, came back and killed 3 maybe 4 people?

That's what, 3 counts of first degree murder? Or did I miss something?
Posted by Bellabama
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Posted on 6/12/12 at 6:41 pm to
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Another question.. as to the response yesterday. Why was the bulk of enforcement directly on the street that was suspected? After 20 minutes, common sense and protocol, should have been to have set up a much larger perimeter in the event he had left the immediate area? Did they have checkpoints further away from that subdivision?


I wondered the same thing. The chronology/people/events don't make sense to me yet.

Posted by WDE24
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Posted on 6/12/12 at 6:41 pm to
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That's what, 3 counts of first degree murder?
No. 3 counts of capital murder.
Posted by wartiger2004
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Posted on 6/12/12 at 6:41 pm to
That FB page makes me want to
Posted by WDE24
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Posted on 6/12/12 at 6:42 pm to
Posted by Gnar Cat21
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Posted on 6/12/12 at 6:44 pm to
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No. 3 counts of capital murder


Ahh ok thanks
Posted by FairhopeTider
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Posted on 6/12/12 at 6:44 pm to
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After 20 minutes, common sense and protocol, should have been to have set up a much larger perimeter in the event he had left the immediate area? Did they have checkpoints further away from that subdivision?


Agree. They could've blocked that whole subdivision off without causing huge traffic jams either. I can't believe the media was able to get so close to the scene.

I also wondered why the officials didn't want to admit last night that he wasn't in the house. It seems like they were going out of their way to not say he could still be at large.
This post was edited on 6/12/12 at 6:46 pm
Posted by Alahunter
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Posted on 6/12/12 at 6:47 pm to
Exactly. I guess I could understand getting a team together and that taking 20 minutes to get "on the scene". However, there should have been a perimeter getting in place a couple of blocks or more bigger around that neighborhood in the event he left. After all, he was aware he scared the homeowner and had to expect police were called.

I'm afraid there's been some bungled instances from the beginning, with the long delay in releasing suspect info, to how things were handled yesterday. I totally understand this is something much bigger than Au PD has ever faced and give some leeway, but.... your training is there for a reason and as big a situation as occurred, there is no reason, more information shouldn't have been released sooner on the suspect. It was an extraordinary amount of time of silence after the event happened.
Posted by WDE24
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Posted on 6/12/12 at 6:49 pm to
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I totally understand this is something much bigger than Au PD has ever faced and give some leeway, but.... your training is there for a reason and as big a situation as occurred, there is no reason, more information shouldn't have been released sooner on the suspect. It was an extraordinary amount of time of silence after the event happened.
I thought this went pretty quick. I think they have to check his home and other known potential locations before they make it known that they have id'ed him.

Yesterday's debacle, mostly the mayor, but also the way in which they followed up on the lead is inexcusable.
Posted by Alahunter
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Posted on 6/12/12 at 6:51 pm to
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I thought this went pretty quick. I think they have to check his home and other known potential locations before they make it known that they have id'ed him.


Depends on how quickly they made the identification. 14 hours to release info, after the car was found abandoned, is too long to wait to alert the public that a triple murder suspect is on the loose. They knew he was on the run, and the quicker his name and mug is out, the quicker the chance he is seen and reported in the area.
Posted by Alahunter
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Posted on 6/12/12 at 6:53 pm to
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but also the way in which they followed up on the lead is inexcusable.


That's one of the things I got to thinking about. Because it took so long to get there, there was a great chance he had left that neighborhood. I haven't heard anyone state police had set up a larger perimeter in the area or surrounding roads in the event he did. It's like they expected it was a game of hide and seek and once he hid, he couldn't find a new hiding place.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 6/12/12 at 6:53 pm to
SIAP

Fake Auburn murder suspect twitter account could lead to arrest.

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"This is not a joke to the Auburn district attorney, this is not a joke for law enforcement, this is not a joke to those families that are going to be burying their loved ones," said McDaniel.
Posted by WDE24
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Posted on 6/12/12 at 6:54 pm to
I guess. I just think you want to check his home and other known locations before getting it out publicly that you know who he is and you are coming for him. With something that happened late at night, 1 pm the next day doesn't seem like a long time IMO.
Posted by Alahunter
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Posted on 6/12/12 at 6:54 pm to
Good for them.
Posted by Alahunter
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Posted on 6/12/12 at 6:57 pm to
14 hrs is a long time. Especially when it's all over the news. He knew they were looking for him, by 8am the next morning at the latest when it was all over the news and net. That still leaves 5 hrs for him to be making tracks. He wouldn't go home or his regular haunts after it's out everywhere. He had to know they knew it was him. And it doesn't take 14 hours to check locations after finding a suspect name. Just seems it would have been alot more fruitful for the public to know and potentially assist them in their search, while he could have been in the immediate area.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 6/12/12 at 6:57 pm to
Other thing could be they were not sure his real identity. Some random from Montgomery that goes buy woosie, rather than his real name is a little harder to positively identify.


For the record, it's not AUPD.
Posted by WDE24
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Posted on 6/12/12 at 6:57 pm to
Seems disingenuous to try to prosecute that guy and I would feel good about my chances defending him. It may have been in poor taste, but I don't think they can establish it was criminal.
Posted by GonzoLeslie
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Posted on 6/12/12 at 6:58 pm to
No its not.

Theyre fricking clowns.
Posted by Alahunter
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Posted on 6/12/12 at 6:59 pm to
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Other thing could be they were not sure his real identity. Some random from Montgomery that goes buy woosie, rather than his real name is a little harder to positively identify.


Possibly. If that's the case, then I still fault them for not releasing info that won't hurt the investigation, i.e., when they found out the info, when they checked his residence and other suspected locations.

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For the record, it's not AUPD.


What is it?
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 6/12/12 at 7:01 pm to
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What is it?


Just apd. We don't have a university pd. haven't for about ten years.
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