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re: Auburn Set to Hire Tubby Smith?

Posted on 3/19/10 at 10:35 am to
Posted by piggidyphish
Birmingham
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Posted on 3/19/10 at 10:35 am to
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young coach that will bring excitement to the program


I grow more and more tired of this cliche every day.
Posted by beaver
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Posted on 3/19/10 at 10:49 am to
Like lane kiffin




Bahaha
Posted by Dribble
Hey, nice marmot.
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 3/19/10 at 10:52 am to
I'm glad Bama didn't go for the young coach approach in football.


They just need a proven winner with strong recruiting skills. (easy huh?)
This post was edited on 3/19/10 at 10:54 am
Posted by AHM21
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 3/19/10 at 10:54 am to
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I grow more and more tired of this cliche every day.



Its not a cliche. Auburn doesn't need a Tubby Smith. He'll coach another 5 years and retire. In that time, what good will he do for Auburn? A couple of tourney appearance?

Alabama is better of with Grant. Pearl might not be a young coach, but look what he's done for Tennessee. He's certainly not looking for another job and he'll have them atop the SEC year in and year out.
Posted by marshallcotiger
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 3/19/10 at 10:57 am to
This rumor is picking up some steam. Dennis Dodd has it on his blog now. Tubby is a southern guy and I'm sure he'd love to get back to his roots at a place he could retire from. He is already set for life money wise so I don't think that would be a major issue. I'd really like this hire if it happens.

https://dennis-dodd.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/6270202/20528708?tag=comBlogEntryListCnt;entry20528708
Posted by aupsh
Birmingham, AL
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 3/19/10 at 11:02 am to
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He'll coach another 5 years and retire. In that time, what good will he do for Auburn? A couple of tourney appearance?


5 years with a national championship winning coach with his record is unquestionably better than 5 years with an unproven coach with potential ($1 to Jeff Lebo). Be careful, your bammer is showing.
Posted by piggidyphish
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2009
18880 posts
Posted on 3/19/10 at 11:02 am to
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Its not a cliche. Auburn doesn't need a Tubby Smith. He'll coach another 5 years and retire. In that time, what good will he do for Auburn? A couple of tourney appearance?

Alabama is better of with Grant. Pearl might not be a young coach, but look what he's done for Tennessee. He's certainly not looking for another job and he'll have them atop the SEC year in and year out.


You act like every one of these "young and exciting" coaches is a can't miss. And yes it is a cliche. End of the ellis years, all of the lebo years and you're suggesting auburn take a chance on a coach, as opposed to getting a coach who is a consistant 20 game a year winner?
Posted by Dribble
Hey, nice marmot.
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 3/19/10 at 11:04 am to
With all the pub for the "need/want" of Auburn to hire a black head coach, it better be ready to reap the whirl wind if they don't. Right or wrong, you know it will happen.
Posted by AHM21
Member since Feb 2008
30240 posts
Posted on 3/19/10 at 11:05 am to
Mike Anderson was there. Auburn missed out on that "young coach" and hired Lebo. Why did Auburn skip on Anderson?

It will take Tubby Smith a year or two to get the players in place. Say he wins 20 games in a couple of seasons, never wins the SEC or the SEC West, and is able to get Auburn to the tournament a few times. Would Auburn fans be satisfied?
Posted by NorthGwinnettTiger
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 3/19/10 at 11:07 am to
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Why did Auburn skip on Anderson?


Because he was above coming to Auburn for an interview?
Posted by beaver
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Posted on 3/19/10 at 11:07 am to
I just talked to a source who isn't with the program but is a head college coach and he is hearing tubby to auburn is very serious and he think it is likely
Posted by SabanIsAGod
Jackson
Member since Oct 2009
3880 posts
Posted on 3/19/10 at 11:08 am to
On a side note, I was talking to my Dad who is in DC this week. He was telling me about having dinner with a fellow named Smith whose brother was some big basketball coach who had coached at Kentucky. My dad only watches football so he did not know who he was.
Posted by piggidyphish
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2009
18880 posts
Posted on 3/19/10 at 11:08 am to
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Mike Anderson was there. Auburn missed out on that "young coach" and hired Lebo. Why did Auburn skip on Anderson?


No one is arguing that we didn't make a mistake with hiring lebo.

well lebo was "younger" too.


This post was edited on 3/19/10 at 11:11 am
Posted by AHM21
Member since Feb 2008
30240 posts
Posted on 3/19/10 at 11:09 am to
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Because he was above coming to Auburn for an interview?



And that was that? Auburn didn't make an effort to further pursue him?
Posted by ever43
Raleigh, NC
Member since Aug 2009
2947 posts
Posted on 3/19/10 at 11:10 am to
Tubby Smith would be the perfect hire at this point for AU. AU is never going to consistently compete for SEC titles, but going to the NCAA Tournament 2 out of every 3 years is possible with an occasional really good year like 1999 and 2003.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
73253 posts
Posted on 3/19/10 at 11:11 am to
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5 years with a national championship winning coach with his record is unquestionably better than 5 years with an unproven coach with potential ($1 to Jeff Lebo). Be careful, your bammer is showing.


In three years at Minnesota he had an NIT appearance, and two NCAA appearances (being bounced in the first round last year).

2007-08: 20-14
2008-09: 22-11
2009-10: 20-12

Are those numbers really that much better than what Auburn could get with a up-and-coming coach, for less money? I think that's why some people are questioning hiring Tubby Smith this late in his career. I think the AU and Minnesota jobs are pretty comparable, wouldn't you say?
Posted by piggidyphish
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2009
18880 posts
Posted on 3/19/10 at 11:13 am to
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up-and-coming coach, for less money?


You mean like jeff lebo was when we hired him? Why is it you bama guys continue to think all these up and comers are sure fire success. We've had a terrible run in basketball and dont' need to go out there taking chances.
Posted by aupsh
Birmingham, AL
Member since Dec 2009
146 posts
Posted on 3/19/10 at 11:16 am to
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Are those numbers really that much better than what Auburn could get with a up-and-coming coach, for less money? I think that's why some people are questioning hiring Tubby Smith this late in his career. I think the AU and Minnesota jobs are pretty comparable, wouldn't you say?


Who knows if they are comparable with what a young unproven coach could. The point is that if you go with someone like Tubby, you're getting close to a sure thing. Why sit around and wait for 5 years to see the young coach with potential can't produce if you can get someone who has a national championship under their belt, as well as 16 straight 20+ win seasons. No brainer.
Posted by NorthGwinnettTiger
Member since Jun 2006
52929 posts
Posted on 3/19/10 at 11:16 am to
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And that was that? Auburn didn't make an effort to further pursue him?


I don't know what other efforts were made. I just remember something about him not wanting to come to Auburn for an interview, that AU needed to come to Birmingham to interview him. That right there was enough for me. But as far as going for someone younger, like it was already said, AU did that with Lebo and we've not progressed at all. Give me Tubby for 5 years, get the program moving forward, and then he can ride off into retirement. I'd take that everytime over some risk on a young gun.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
73253 posts
Posted on 3/19/10 at 11:18 am to
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You mean like jeff lebo was when we hired him? Why is it you bama guys continue to think all these up and comers are sure fire success. We've had a terrible run in basketball and dont' need to go out there taking chances.


Because when you've dished out 85 million for a new arena, does it make sense to throw tons of cash at a coach at the end of his career? Basketball programs like Alabama, AU, Georgia, etc., are never going to be able to go out and hire the "best of the best". Hiring great young coaches from mid-majors is the best bet, and it has worked well for Tennessee, Florida, and even Alabama in the past (at least for the first few years of the Gottfried era).
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