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re: Auburn QB Kiehl Frazier
Posted on 10/24/11 at 3:39 pm to spacewrangler
Posted on 10/24/11 at 3:39 pm to spacewrangler
quote:To be fair, I bet they planned and expected to get him some broader passing experience in games like Utah State and FAU that didn't quite pan out as expected.
I really question the Au coaching staff on how they've utilized his freshman year. I know he's gotten some real game experience but it sure hasn't looked to be very productive.
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Posted on 10/24/11 at 3:46 pm to rbWarEagle
He has the arm to make every throw, he is a legit threat to tuck the ball and run, he has been accurate throwing to his intended target in limited action, he is smart and Gus seems like he is about to jizz in his pants whenever he talks about him. Other than that I can't really say much in support of the kid.
Posted on 10/24/11 at 3:52 pm to rbWarEagle
I won't say he is or not.
The fact is so far he has not done anything that alot of runningbacks or WRs have done in the wildcat formation.
Would like to see him run the full offense, read defenses and throw downfield.
Throwing short screen and swing passes doesn't really show alot.
The fact is so far he has not done anything that alot of runningbacks or WRs have done in the wildcat formation.
Would like to see him run the full offense, read defenses and throw downfield.
Throwing short screen and swing passes doesn't really show alot.
Posted on 10/24/11 at 3:52 pm to rbWarEagle
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Don't bust a blood vessel, Aristotle
Thought you like that one.
Posted on 10/24/11 at 3:53 pm to theenemy
quote:I would too. But only after he learns how to do those things against SEC defenses.
Would like to see him run the full offense, read defenses and throw downfield.
Posted on 10/24/11 at 3:55 pm to marshallcotiger
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he has been accurate throwing to his intended target in limited action, he is smart
He did hit Tramain Thomas in stride but the pass to Bennett was a little high. Bennett had to go up the ladder to get it.
Posted on 10/24/11 at 3:59 pm to theenemy
beat ole miss, samford, and uga... make a decent bowl, prep like all get out and win it! 9-4 record with this team should be the goal!
Posted on 10/24/11 at 4:03 pm to rbWarEagle
I went to every home game he played in his senior year. I'm really not trying to run the kid down, he is a great young man, but he has never been a great passing qb. Time will tell, but I never understood all the the love he got during high school. The kid Arkansas got last year was a much better passing qb in a tougher classification and got very little attention.
Posted on 10/24/11 at 4:04 pm to rbWarEagle
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Who doesn't think Frazier will be a good QB and what have you seen to back up your statement?
I have seen nothing to make me think that Kodi Frazier will be a good QB. He will probably make a good 3rd or 4th receiver by his senior year however.
Posted on 10/24/11 at 4:06 pm to rbWarEagle
I thought he performed well under extremely difficult circumstances on Saturday. So did the other youngster. Trotter would not have done any better had he played.
Posted on 10/24/11 at 4:08 pm to WDE24
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To be fair, I bet they planned and expected to get him some broader passing experience in games like Utah State and FAU that didn't quite pan out as expected.
And to futher expound on this statement, I bet the AU coaching staff wanted to get the youngsters last year a lot more PT so they wouldn't be so green this year.
Y'all had a lot of nailbiter games that went down to the wire last year, which required the coaches to keep the veteran players in the game the majority of the time.
They didn't have the luxury of subbing in 2nd & 3rd stringers like Bama has been able to do this year to build up the young players. The result is a ton of inexperienced players starting this season all over the field.
Posted on 10/24/11 at 4:12 pm to northalabamacracker
quote:I have seen you post this more than a handful of times. It won't bother me if you post 100 more, but I just wanted to let you know that people have seen it. I assume you keep posting because you want people to laugh. The lack of lol emoticons is because it isn't as funny or clever as you seem to think it is.
I have seen nothing to make me think that Kodi Frazier will be a good QB. He will probably make a good 3rd or 4th receiver by his senior year however.
Posted on 10/24/11 at 4:14 pm to rbWarEagle
I watched him with my eyes and my eyes saw that he is the second coming of Chris Relf. This is how I came to my conclusion. Is it possible I'm wrong?
No. No it isn't. Every GOOD young QB I've seen come through the SEC that matured into a quality SEC starter had some bad moments but you still saw a certain part of his game where it made you believe that once he learns to read defenses and adjusts to the speed of the game he's gonna be a good one. Think to Stafford's, Murray etc when they were freshmen they threw an assload of bad passes but they had enough good ones that made you believe that they would be good QBs.
I have yet to see a Kiehl Frazier pass that made me think this is a possibility.
No. No it isn't. Every GOOD young QB I've seen come through the SEC that matured into a quality SEC starter had some bad moments but you still saw a certain part of his game where it made you believe that once he learns to read defenses and adjusts to the speed of the game he's gonna be a good one. Think to Stafford's, Murray etc when they were freshmen they threw an assload of bad passes but they had enough good ones that made you believe that they would be good QBs.
I have yet to see a Kiehl Frazier pass that made me think this is a possibility.
Posted on 10/24/11 at 4:16 pm to drexyl
But is it possible it is because he has had only a few passes in limited sets where he is running onto the field for a play or two. He has only thrown 10 passes and no more than 4 in the same game.
Don't you at least want to see a few series where he is the QB before you make such a definitive statement?
What was your prediction about Cam's ability in the NFL pre-draft?
Don't you at least want to see a few series where he is the QB before you make such a definitive statement?
What was your prediction about Cam's ability in the NFL pre-draft?
This post was edited on 10/24/11 at 4:18 pm
Posted on 10/24/11 at 4:17 pm to WDE24
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WDE24
Haters gonna Hate.
Everyone knows Pike is gonna be the QB that moves to H-Back/TE before his career is over.
Posted on 10/24/11 at 4:19 pm to rbWarEagle
I think he will be good but he still needs to develop as a passer. He can run the ball for sure.
Posted on 10/24/11 at 4:19 pm to theenemy
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He did hit Tramain Thomas in stride but the pass to Bennett was a little high. Bennett had to go up the ladder to get it
True but he would have hit our players in the number's if your guys wouldn't have gotten in the damn way. What I should have said is that he throws an accurate ball but needs to learn how to better read defenses and look defenders off.
You guys would have never picked off Kodi on those plays because the ball would have landed a good 10 yards away from his intended target.
Posted on 10/24/11 at 4:19 pm to WDE24
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Don't you at least want to see a few series where he is the QB before you make such a definitive statement?
I know this wasn't directed at me but yes I do. But wasn't the question what have we seen to make us think that he won't be a good QB? And the answer is his play is less than average. He reminds me of Kiehl Burns so far.
Posted on 10/24/11 at 4:20 pm to CamdenTiger
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should have redshirted.
I disagree. At least he can run the ball and provides you guys with a running qb because Trotter/Mosely can't.
Posted on 10/24/11 at 4:21 pm to rbWarEagle
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Do I really have to explain this? Trotter had experience, Moseley didn't. Moseley has more athleticism and a stronger arm. Keihl has more athleticism and a stronger arm than BOTH and the reason he isn't playing is because he's fresh out of high school in a complicated system of reads and check downs (seemingly) and hasn't had enough time to develop.
Since when did running play 36 become complicated
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