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re: Auburn QB Kiehl Frazier

Posted on 10/24/11 at 3:09 pm to
Posted by rbWarEagle
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 10/24/11 at 3:09 pm to
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He's not ready for the SEC at this point. Give him some time and let's see. A couple of years ago a certain #1 team had a QB who everyone thought wasn't worth a flip. NOW they're thankful to have him.


Exactly. Thank you for exercising logic.
Posted by townhallsavoy
Member since Oct 2007
3045 posts
Posted on 10/24/11 at 3:11 pm to
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Link? I'm not a regular message board dumbass that you can confuse with a marginally high vocabulary and a weak argument. Please just stop responding to the thread. You are wasting both of our time.




Yeesh.
Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
27280 posts
Posted on 10/24/11 at 3:12 pm to
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I know you are probably a good LSU fan but you should probably stick to analyzing LSU football. Our team is incredibly young an inexperienced. Our whole team is full of sophs and freshman.


Fact ...

70% of Auburn's team are freshman and sophomores
69% of LSU team are freshman and sophomores.

It is what it is.
Posted by Fatbackhawg
Fayetteville
Member since Sep 2008
3139 posts
Posted on 10/24/11 at 3:13 pm to
He needs to adjust to the SEC....He is not playing 3and4A schools...
Posted by rbWarEagle
Member since Nov 2009
49999 posts
Posted on 10/24/11 at 3:13 pm to
quote:

Fact ...

70% of Auburn's team are freshman and sophomores
69% of LSU team are freshman and sophomores.

It is what it is.


How many starting LSU players had experience in games last year? How many starting Auburn players did?
Posted by rbWarEagle
Member since Nov 2009
49999 posts
Posted on 10/24/11 at 3:13 pm to
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He needs to adjust to the SEC


Agreed.
Posted by ljhog
Lake Jackson, Tx.
Member since Apr 2009
20446 posts
Posted on 10/24/11 at 3:14 pm to
Well it only makes sense. He already has the read option run stuff down pretty good. If I recall last year Cam didn't exactly start off throwing the ball real well. NOW look what he's doin' in the NFL. Surprise the hell out of me.
I once had a coach tell me you don't write of a kid until the middle of his junior year.
Posted by rbWarEagle
Member since Nov 2009
49999 posts
Posted on 10/24/11 at 3:14 pm to
Posted by rangers911
Member since Jun 2009
5159 posts
Posted on 10/24/11 at 3:14 pm to
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If Trotter was starting, then Moseley, how bad must Frazier be?


Most of Auburn's passing issues are due to injuries not necessarily bad QB. Trotter was a good QB but we lost our top two receivers, then one of our better offensive linemen, after that things went from meh to crap. Moseley is doing ok because he still has confidence in himself and wasn't feeling the pressure like Trotter was and forcing passes.

KF has the tools to be a good QB but there is no telling how he will perform when the lights go on and he's the main man. My concern is are we hurting him right now with the play style we have him in and situations.
Posted by rbWarEagle
Member since Nov 2009
49999 posts
Posted on 10/24/11 at 3:14 pm to
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Well it only makes sense.


To people with a brain, yes.

quote:

He already has the read option run stuff down pretty good. If I recall last year Cam didn't exactly start off throwing the ball real well. NOW look what he's doin' in the NFL. Surprise the hell out of me.
I once had a coach tell me you don't write of a kid until the middle of his junior year.





Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54839 posts
Posted on 10/24/11 at 3:16 pm to
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He needs to adjust to the SEC...
Extrapolating off a very limited sample size, this appears to be the right answer. Seems like a bright kid and the physical talent is definitely there, so I expect he will be good in a year or two depending on how quickly he adjusts.
Posted by rbWarEagle
Member since Nov 2009
49999 posts
Posted on 10/24/11 at 3:16 pm to
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KF has the tools to be a good QB but there is no telling how he will perform when the lights go on and he's the main man.


Therein lies the point of this thread.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
108421 posts
Posted on 10/24/11 at 3:17 pm to
quote:

What have you seen to think that he will be?


I think it is safe to say there really is nothing to back up either argument. So it is either homerism or trolling.
Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
27280 posts
Posted on 10/24/11 at 3:18 pm to
quote:

How many starting LSU players had experience in games last year? How many starting Auburn players did?


I would think mathematically speaking...that ALL starting players last year had experience in games last year
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54839 posts
Posted on 10/24/11 at 3:18 pm to
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Fact ...

LSU's 2 deep on the offensive line is almost exclusively experienced upperclassmen.
AU's 2 deep on the offensive line is mostly inexperienced underclassmen.

It is what it is.
Posted by rbWarEagle
Member since Nov 2009
49999 posts
Posted on 10/24/11 at 3:18 pm to
quote:

I think it is safe to say there really is nothing to back up either argument.


B-I-N-G-O, B-I-N-G-O, B-I-N-G-O.
Posted by rbWarEagle
Member since Nov 2009
49999 posts
Posted on 10/24/11 at 3:20 pm to
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I would think mathematically speaking...that ALL starting players last year had experience in games last year

Don't bust a blood vessel, Aristotle.
Posted by ChemicalXen
Alter, AL
Member since Jun 2011
918 posts
Posted on 10/24/11 at 3:25 pm to
quote:

I would think mathematically speaking...that ALL starting players last year had experience in games last year


After hours of number-crunching, I came up with similar results.
Posted by rbWarEagle
Member since Nov 2009
49999 posts
Posted on 10/24/11 at 3:26 pm to
He needs support. Good man.
Posted by spacewrangler
In my easy chair with my boots on..
Member since Sep 2009
9863 posts
Posted on 10/24/11 at 3:37 pm to
To be honest; he hasn't played enough to truely gauge him. He certainly hasn't looked like he's going to be anything special in the limited time/playbook that he's been given to compete.

I really question the Au coaching staff on how they've utilized his freshman year. I know he's gotten some real game experience but it sure hasn't looked to be very productive.

What year are Trotter/Moseley? If Frazier is going to be the QB next year they might as well start him the rest of the year. They've already burned his ability to redshirt so let him be the full time qb which would give him "true" experience at the QB position for next year.
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