re: Auburn QB Kiehl Frazier

Kiehl Frazier isn't a good QB. At least right now. Does that mean he won't be a good QB next year or 2 years from now? Hard to say. It is hard for a true freshman to come in and succeed, especially on a team as inexperienced as Auburn is.

On that same note I haven't seen anything to make me believe he will be a good QB, but 10-12 plays aren't really adequate to make a fair assessment.

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I have high hopes for the kid, but it's silly to attempt to refute the naysayers based on his performance.

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I wasn't refuting naysayers based on his performance, I was refuting your attempt to naysay based on his performance. Good try, though.

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On that same note I haven't seen anything to make me believe he will be a good QB, but 10-12 plays aren't really adequate to make a fair assessment.

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That's all I needed to hear.

He's no Cam and he might not even be a Kodi Burns. Who at one time Malzahn had scouted as the future. How did that turn out? Gus leaves after this year if the iron is even remotely still hot leaving Frazier on his on. When Chris Todd had so much success everyone chalked it up to Malzahn saying he could produce good numbers with any qb. That is was his system. Doesnt appear to be the case does it. I think a more logical explanation for Malzahns success is that it was smoke and mirrors all along. His first year at AU was nothing more than misdirection, crazy formations and trick plays (or Chris Todd was really that good which I have a hard time believing). With Cam he had 3 plays. Cam left, Cam right and Cam up the middle. No real genius to that play calling. Finally by the third year every one knew his bag of tricks (except the fumblerusky. That was a sign of desperation) and he wasnt fooling anyone. Looks like Huston Nutt had Malzahn pegged all along. A high school coach running a high school offense.

Frazier will not get the development he needs right now to ever reach his potential. He's burned a red shirt this year and after Malhzan leaves I get the feeling Chiz is going to want to go to a power running game.

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I wasn't refuting naysayers based on his performance, I was refuting your attempt to naysay based on his performance. Good try, though.

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You've spent this entire thread nitpicking responses that don't suit your fancy.

And the OP's tone was defensive in nature.

Frazier's given no reason for anyone to think positively of him as a freshman. Blaming the o-line or his youth is merely an unsubstantiated opinion.

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Blaming the o-line or his youth is merely an unsubstantiated opinion.

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How is it unsubstantiated? Is he not a freshman that hasn't been through spring practice at AU? Is the o-line not struggling?

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see...like this guy.

So fancy and refined becuase he loves bourbon...experts i say...experts.

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I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.....


When was the last time Auburn had a good QB? And not a physical RB who occasionally threw the ball, like Cam did. They'be been known as a Running Back school for decades. And with Malzahn running the spread, you still don't have a good QB among the three of them. Todd was supposed to be a quick fix. Cam was a quick fix. The truth about the QB situation at AU has been shown. They can't recruit a decent QB.

He throws like a girl. Only kind of kidding. When he has thrown it, it has looked awful. Not just the results, but the actual throw doesn't even really look like a QB is throwing it. Looks like a half back pass.

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"I'm just having a little fun with the butt-hurt Aubbies."

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They cant handle their lack of relevance. Go away Auburn until your beating comes in the Iron Bowl.

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