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re: Auburn Fans...Want Your Honest Opinion

Posted on 10/18/10 at 10:32 am to
Posted by The_Pistol
Member since Dec 2003
2519 posts
Posted on 10/18/10 at 10:32 am to
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AU was hosed by officiating early and often against LSU at y'alls place last year.


Officiating had nothing to do with Jordan Jefferson (of all people) passing at will last year.
Posted by nativetiger
Member since Jan 2007
2196 posts
Posted on 10/18/10 at 10:33 am to
oh that's nice......so when you win while having the way paved by questionable calls and no calls, it' just because you're good.

What a fricking concept.
Posted by MattP598
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
1920 posts
Posted on 10/18/10 at 10:35 am to
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Officiating had nothing to do with Jordan Jefferson (of all people) passing at will last year.


And officiating had nothing to do with Cam Newton running it at will this past Saturday.
Posted by Tawanda
Member since Oct 2009
1690 posts
Posted on 10/18/10 at 10:40 am to
In my honest opinion, I think the refs. to they best job humanly possible to make the correct calls. There have been questionable calls both for and against Auburn throughout the 50+ years I've been following the Tigers. Although we now have the benefit of HD instant re-play, the refs. are still human and therefore subject to error. We as fans are more prejudiced in viewing the instant replays than the refs and those prejudices can sometimes cloud our perception, so often we are not going to agree with how a particular play is called. Judgement calls are just another facet of the game and certainly add to the passion that is SEC football. The only choice we as fans have in the matter is whether or not we are going to accept what we think is a bad call graciously, or choose to let it eat at us and make us miserable.
Posted by The_Pistol
Member since Dec 2003
2519 posts
Posted on 10/18/10 at 10:43 am to
When a win is decided in the final seconds by a re-do on an extra point by a penalty that anyone rarely ever sees, or when a win can be attributed to a pass interference penalty on a 4th down call that somehow gets waved off, officiating is in the limelight and can be questioned.

When the game is absolute domination from start to finish by one team over another, blaming the refs is like blaming the cheerleaders for not yelling loud enough.
Posted by parkjas2001
Gustav Fan Club: Consigliere
Member since Feb 2010
45000 posts
Posted on 10/18/10 at 10:44 am to
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When a win is decided in the final seconds by a re-do on an extra point by a coreectly called penalty that anyone rarely ever sees,


fify
Posted by The_Pistol
Member since Dec 2003
2519 posts
Posted on 10/18/10 at 10:56 am to
So you're arguing that when calls go your way and sway the balance of the game in AU's favor, they're "correctly called".

Yet, you're arguing that interference and personal foul penalties in the 1st quarter of a full-game beatdown is "getting hosed by the officials"?

I beg to differ. Officiating or no, LSU was the better team by far last year.
Posted by nativetiger
Member since Jan 2007
2196 posts
Posted on 10/18/10 at 10:58 am to
the 2004 p.a.t. call was right that year. that was the rule that year....maybe LSU should quit bitching and get a copy of the rule book.
Posted by parkjas2001
Gustav Fan Club: Consigliere
Member since Feb 2010
45000 posts
Posted on 10/18/10 at 10:58 am to
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Yet, you're arguing that interference and personal foul penalties in the 1st quarter of a full-game beatdown is "getting hosed by the officials"?

I beg to differ. Officiating or no, LSU was the better team by far last year.


That was another poster.

The correcty called penalty i am referring to is teh extra point call in 2004. The rule is clear that you cannot land on another player...Early Doucet did, thus teh correctly called penalty. Your coach, nick Saban, was on the rules commitee that summer when the rule was added, which is why he had no issue with it.
Posted by AUTigLN11
Marietta
Member since Mar 2010
4833 posts
Posted on 10/18/10 at 10:59 am to
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When the game is absolute domination from start to finish by one team over another, blaming the refs is like blaming the cheerleaders for not yelling loud enough.


We stopped you twice on your first drive only to be screwed by the officials. There is a 99% chance LSU still would have won that game but for a team lacking in confidence the difference between getting a big stop to start the game and allowing a long TD drive could definitely have an impact on how the rest of the game plays out. Not to mention in 07 with two absurd spots given to Hester, one on the last drive when it should have been 4th and 1.
Posted by MattP598
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
1920 posts
Posted on 10/18/10 at 11:00 am to
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When a win is decided in the final seconds by a re-do on an extra point by a penalty that anyone rarely ever sees, or when a win can be attributed to a pass interference penalty on a 4th down call that somehow gets waved off, officiating is in the limelight and can be questioned.

When the game is absolute domination from start to finish by one team over another, blaming the refs is like blaming the cheerleaders for not yelling loud enough.


In 2004 that was a correctly called penalty. Did you watch Saban's press conference after the game? He was on the rules committee that year and admitted that it was correctly called.

The pass interference you are referencing is an absolute joke. The pass was tipped before the receiver was ever touched. The flag was waved off because the official that called it did not see the tip.

You are right, LSU was the better team last year. Not as much as the score indicated, but they were better. Doesn't mean AU didn't get screwed by some obvious calls in the first quarter.
Posted by BMW7SERIES
The UES right on the Park
Member since Oct 2010
1240 posts
Posted on 10/18/10 at 11:01 am to
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there were MANY bad calls that went against us too.

It's just that everybody who hates Auburn likes to isolate the ones that have gone our way and use that evidence only as proof that we (a program that had a losing season in 2008) are paying off the league.

It's fricking laughable that you guys aren't smart enough to figure out that the SEC refs are just incompetent.

My advice: watch the games with people who actually know about the game and quit just reacting based on your own biases.


This is well stated. Most rationale statement I've read on here in days...Kudos to you.
Posted by piggidyphish
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2009
18880 posts
Posted on 10/18/10 at 11:01 am to
It was a bad call. I don't think its the ref's giving home cooking, or as some have gone so far to suggest basically determining who they want to win before the game starts. I think SEC officals just really suck.
Posted by Roach
River Ridge, LA
Member since Nov 2007
4258 posts
Posted on 10/18/10 at 11:02 am to
The SEC refs are just flat out bad. Watch other games around the country and the refs never even get mentioned for the most part. But every week in the sec the refs seem to screw up calls.
Posted by wegotdatwood
Member since Aug 2009
17094 posts
Posted on 10/18/10 at 11:05 am to
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I don't think video evidence proved "without a shadow of doubt" that the calls could be overturned.




quote:

tdauburn


AKA Stevie Wonder
Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
38477 posts
Posted on 10/18/10 at 12:18 pm to
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When will this happen in Tiger Stadium?


AU/LSU 2009.

You're welcome.
Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
38477 posts
Posted on 10/18/10 at 12:19 pm to
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Usually the refs only get the blame for the game when there's a controversial call during an actual contest.

LSU whupped Auburn last year. It wasn't fault of officiating. When France fell to the Germans, it wasn't because of the weather.


You may not have noticed, but Auburn scored 65 points.

Just sayin'.
Posted by Rome26
Dallas, Tx
Member since May 2009
502 posts
Posted on 10/18/10 at 12:38 pm to
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You may not have noticed, but Auburn scored 65 points.


Without those calls Auburn probably doesn't break 50. Not only was they given 14 points, Ark lost two possessions. We don't know wether Ark would have scored or how much time they would have burned off the clock with those possessions. If Ark is up 2TD'S in the fourth, there's a great chance the INT's never happen. There's a great chance Auburn is forced to pass the ball more. Let's not pretend those call didn't affect the game.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
52083 posts
Posted on 10/18/10 at 12:40 pm to
officiating in Lexington was way worse than the calls at the arky game....the calls went both ways
Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
38477 posts
Posted on 10/18/10 at 2:08 pm to
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Without those calls Auburn probably doesn't break 50. Not only was they given 14 points, Ark lost two possessions. We don't know wether Ark would have scored or how much time they would have burned off the clock with those possessions. If Ark is up 2TD'S in the fourth, there's a great chance the INT's never happen. There's a great chance Auburn is forced to pass the ball more. Let's not pretend those call didn't affect the game.


You receiver Childs got away with a blatant push in the end-zone to get open for a TD pass. Guess we can take that one away.

You got a ridiculously wrong favorable spot giving you a 4th down conversion on a silver platter on a drive that you scored on. Guess we can take that one away.

You guys are now down 14 points as well.

You were saying?
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