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re: Auburn faithful...do you miss the steadiness of Tuberville?
Posted on 11/1/15 at 3:14 pm to Presh
Posted on 11/1/15 at 3:14 pm to Presh
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higher highs and lower lows
It also makes team logo merchandise cheaper some years.
I wish we could be 15-0 every year, but we actually have gone 11-0, 13-0, and 14-0 since divisional play began. I'm not sure any other SEC team has done that.
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Posted on 11/1/15 at 3:15 pm to Warfarer
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Too bad he deride away 5 games in 2003
1000% irrelevant
Posted on 11/1/15 at 3:20 pm to bfniii
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LSU, only alongside several other programs
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and they would be?
UGA, Auburn, Florida State, Ohio State, Florida, Oregon. Off the top of my head.
Posted on 11/1/15 at 3:23 pm to AUFANATL
quote:you just corrected the misconception yourself. rare doesn't mean "lucky"
it's lucky meaning that it happened, not that they gamed the system in a normal season.
How often does a team lose two games late in the season to unranked teams and get to play for the MNC?
quote:now that's just ridiculous. it was about as complex as what happens every season. the difference is it went down to the wire more than usual but, the circumstances were about the same. some teams needed to win, some needed to lose and certain votes needed to be made.
It's a once in a lifetime fluke
quote:i'm pretty sure you're exaggerating and the people who do think that illustrate how most sheeple will believe all sorts of things.
NOBODY outside of the state of Louisiana takes LSU's 2007 championship seriously. Nobody.
quote:fluke? you mean other teams losing and a system that incorporates voting? so, like every season.
obviously benefited from a fluke
quote:and this underscores the oversimplification. people are focusing on the 2 losses and not the relationship of lsu's body of work in comparison to everyone else's body of work. looking at it that way should clear up the misconception
that hasn't happened in 100 years of cfb and probably won't happen in another 100 years.
Posted on 11/1/15 at 3:23 pm to bfniii
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and once again, you are wrong
Hahahahahaha, you say this, and post an article where there are 5 teams ahead of LSU.
Posted on 11/1/15 at 3:24 pm to RandySavage
quote:again, i didn't say undefeated. i cleared that up in another post
LSU "straight up" beating everyone on the schedule
Posted on 11/1/15 at 3:26 pm to RandySavage
quote:hence, the point of the op
more in the last 5 and that doesn't include a 2 loss "national championship". It does include a 14-0.
Posted on 11/1/15 at 3:27 pm to bfniii
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again, i didn't say undefeated
You said they straight up beat everyone
Posted on 11/1/15 at 3:28 pm to RandySavage
quote:ugh. the usual non substantiation. would you care to elaborate what you are basing this on and why your criteria is justified or are you just throwing darts at the wall?
UGA, Auburn, Florida State, Ohio State, Florida, Oregon.
Posted on 11/1/15 at 3:28 pm to bfniii
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and this underscores the oversimplification. people are focusing on the 2 losses and not the relationship of lsu's body of work in comparison to everyone else's body of work. looking at it that way should clear up the misconception
Look it's really simple, when you lose to two mediocre football teams in the same season an incredible number of things out of your control have to happen for you to be awarded the chance to play for a national title. Such an extraordinary number of things that it's never happened before or since.
For all those things, out of LSU's control, to happen to their benefit is pretty much the definition of luck.
Posted on 11/1/15 at 3:28 pm to warau
quote:once again, i clarified that i was talking about not needing an ineligible player or two of the craziest plays in the history of cfb.
You said they straight up beat everyone
Posted on 11/1/15 at 3:28 pm to bfniii
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again, i didn't say undefeated. i cleared that up in another post
I saw your backtrack, it was hilarious.
Posted on 11/1/15 at 3:31 pm to RandySavage
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when you lose to two mediocre football teams in the same season an incredible number of things out of your control have to happen for you to be awarded the chance to play for a national title.
Undefeated in regulation.
Posted on 11/1/15 at 3:31 pm to RandySavage
quote:it is simple. THIS HAPPENS EVERY SEASON. no team controls voting. no team controls non opponents losing. no team controls non opponents going undefeated. good grief this isn't as difficult as some people are making it out to be.
out of your control
quote:the main difference is that a significant amount of them happened within a span of hours instead of more spread out over the season where unperceptive fans don't usually see the impact
extraordinary number of things
Posted on 11/1/15 at 3:31 pm to bfniii
Lots of derp up in this thread.
Posted on 11/1/15 at 3:32 pm to RandySavage
quote:so, some people read into what i said and that's backtracking. got it.
backtrack
Posted on 11/1/15 at 3:33 pm to bfniii
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notice how no one ever names the other teams who deserved to be in the ncg more than lsu, their criteria and why their criteria is justified. they just ape the usual LSU SUCKS AND GOT LUCKY.
Because it would be an opinion and irrelevant to what actually unfolded. You are attemping an argument based upon a "got ya" question that does not matter.
The fact is that LSU needed two (2) teams to lose on the last weekend of the year because you lost the previous weekend. When LSU was done playing. You tuned in to root for both Oklahoma and Pitt. Both of those teams losing had nothing to do with what LSU did in Atlanta. There is my case.
Now back my original statement, when you need that much outside help to get your two loss team to the BCSNCG, you donot have the right to call anyone else lucky.
Posted on 11/1/15 at 3:34 pm to bfniii
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ugh. the usual non substantiation. would you care to elaborate what you are basing this on and why your criteria is justified or are you just throwing darts at the wall?
UGA- Probably the biggest reach, but until this season they consistently win 10 games like LSU. However, in 2012 they were 3 yards away from a national championship that would have put them firmly in the LSU realm over the last 5-10 years.
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Auburn
Already discussed, more titles over the last 5, equal number over the last 10, 14-0, :13 seconds away from another title in their loss as opposed to two losses and barely crossing midfield in LSU's respective seasons.
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Florida State
Undefeated national championship, multiple conference titles, tons of wins, great recruiting etc...
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Ohio State
Undefeated season, won the first ever playoff, played for the title in 06 and 07, multiple conference titles and wins...
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Florida
Two national titles, were the best team in the country from 06-09, Won the Orange Bowl a couple of years ago, on the rebound now
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Oregon
Win 11 games almost every year, tons of conference titles, two title games appearances, multiple BCS bowl wins...
Posted on 11/1/15 at 3:34 pm to AubieALUMdvm
quote:exactly. this concept is obviously not easy for some people to grasp. exciting things happen in the last few hours of the season and people jump to the conclusion LUCK.
Lots of derp up in this thread
Posted on 11/1/15 at 3:35 pm to bfniii
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the main difference is that a significant amount of them happened within a span of hours instead of more spread out over the season where unperceptive fans don't usually see the impact
No the main difference is that you lost two games and nobody else has EVER done that.
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