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re: Auburn divisional champion polos are in!!

Posted on 5/1/18 at 12:38 pm to
Posted by Irons Puppet
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Posted on 5/1/18 at 12:38 pm to
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Auburn divisional champion polos are in!!
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Irons Puppet


What are your solutions? You can poke holes and point out negatives in every scenario that has been brought up.



There has to be an emphasis on Conference Championships. In reality the Conference Championship games could be treated as quarterfinal games. The only decision that the Committee should make is which P5 Champion or ND gets left out. Saying the best 4 Teams is like comparing Apples to Oranges and having two from one Conference only shows that the system is flawed.
This post was edited on 5/1/18 at 12:40 pm
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 5/1/18 at 12:39 pm to
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What are your solutions? You can poke holes and point out negatives in every scenario that has been brought up.
Some folks choose to live their lives complaining and whining about circumstances completely out of their control.

Going through the twilight years of your life hating anything and everything Alabama/Nick Saban must really suck the fun of college football for some individuals.
This post was edited on 5/1/18 at 12:40 pm
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 5/1/18 at 12:40 pm to
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Going through the twilight years of your life hating anything and everything Alabama/Nick Saban must really suck the fun of college football for some individuals.



Im probably younger than you.
Posted by Tigerman97
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 5/1/18 at 12:49 pm to
I don't have a problem with Alabama getting in last year or winning it. I do agree that the system needs to be changed to prevent it from happening. If you don't want to go to 8 then say conference champs or Notre Dame. Maybe throw the Power 5 a bone and say if they are ranked in top 4.
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 5/1/18 at 12:49 pm to
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There has to be an emphasis on Conference Championships.


An emphasis created by who?

Did you care as much as you do now with regards to it happening the year before with Penn St.?

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In reality the Conference Championship games could be treated as quarterfinal games


I don't mind creating an automatic qualifier for winning your P5 conference if it was a 6 or 8 team playoff. 4 is not enough in that world.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 5/1/18 at 12:56 pm to
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An emphasis created by who?

Did you care as much as you do now with regards to it happening the year before with Penn St.?


Yes, it takes away from the game by not having the Conference Champions as the only contenders. Why even have a regular season ? The way the Conferences are set up in Divisions, teams within the Conference can have an easier schedule (Bama) and not even play in the Conference Championship and still make it to the playoffs. Again, UGA earned their way in, AU didn't even if their only loss was to UGA in the SECCG, and Bama should have never gotten a sniff.
This post was edited on 5/1/18 at 12:57 pm
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 5/1/18 at 1:07 pm to
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Im probably younger than you.
I may have pegged you wrong IP or have you confused with another Aub on here?

I thought you were retired military (pilot?), because for some reason I feel a sense of respect for your service to our country. You come across as a very bitter, borderline angry old man who rarely posts on this board other than vent about anything relative to Alabama football & Nick Saban.

I guess I'm getting on up there in age, one kid graduating HS this month, another about to start grad school at UAB in the Fall. I'm not 50 yet, but knocking pretty hard in the door.
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 5/1/18 at 1:09 pm to
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Yes, it takes away from the game by not having the Conference Champions as the only contenders. Why even have a regular season ? The way the Conferences are set up in Divisions, teams within the Conference can have an easier schedule (Bama) and not even play in the Conference Championship and still make it to the playoffs. Again, UGA earned their way in, AU didn't even if their only loss was to UGA in the SECCG, and Bama should have never gotten a sniff.


You are never going to get your wish with only 4 teams imo.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 5/1/18 at 1:11 pm to
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You are never going to get your wish with only 4 teams imo.


Why, what is the argument against it ?
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 5/1/18 at 1:14 pm to
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I thought you were retired military (pilot?), because for some reason I feel a sense of respect for your service to our country. You come across as a very bitter, borderline angry old man who rarely posts on this board other than vent about anything relative to Alabama football & Nick Saban.



I am, but Im not in the sunset of my life. I'm in my mid 50s. I know that may be old to some but I hope the rest of the world doesn't think that way.
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 5/1/18 at 1:16 pm to
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Why, what is the argument against it ?




People will never want to make an absolute like that without having wiggle room for at large teams. Bama winning this past year hurts your argument, even if they didn't "deserve" to be there.

In the world of 6 or 8, all the P5 champs plus Bama would have made it. You will have a much easier time convincing people of switching to that vs. only P5 champs.
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 5/1/18 at 1:16 pm to
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I am, but Im not in the sunset of my life. I'm in my mid 50s. I know that may be old to some but I hope the rest of the world doesn't think that way.


You are on the internet, people think anything over 30 is old
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 5/1/18 at 1:28 pm to
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People will never want to make an absolute like that without having wiggle room for at large teams. Bama winning this past year hurts your argument, even if they didn't "deserve" to be there.

In the world of 6 or 8, all the P5 champs plus Bama would have made it. You will have a much easier time convincing people of switching to that vs. only P5 champs.




It should be College Football's argument to make. Again, why have conference championship games if they fail to recognize the Champions. Nothing Positive comes out of them. In reality they cost Wisconsin and Auburn a chance to play in the Playoff. That is why it is so important for them to have it as the selection criteria or do away with those games all together.
This post was edited on 5/1/18 at 1:43 pm
Posted by Tigerman97
Member since Jun 2014
10354 posts
Posted on 5/1/18 at 2:02 pm to
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why have conference championship games


This isn't about championship games. It's about money. The SEC title game is the reason we are in the race for dollars that exist these days. The SEC showed the value of that format.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 5/1/18 at 2:06 pm to
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This isn't about championship games. It's about money. The SEC title game is the reason we are in the race for dollars that exist these days. The SEC showed the value of that format.


What did the BIG10 Champion Game cost that Conference ?
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 5/1/18 at 2:07 pm to
Nothing, since both participants still got NY6 money.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 5/1/18 at 2:12 pm to
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Nothing, since both participants still got NY6 money.




What do you think the money difference with (AU,UA,UGA) vs (OSU,PSU, Wisc) last year ? Ill help you out, 6 shares vs 3 shares.
This post was edited on 5/1/18 at 2:15 pm
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 5/1/18 at 2:21 pm to
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Again, why have conference championship games if they fail to recognize the Champions. Nothing Positive comes out of them.


Now you are exaggerating. No one fails to recognize the champs.

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That is why it is so important for them to have it as the selection criteria or do away with those games all together.


It is a part of the criteria but not the only part.

Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30214 posts
Posted on 5/1/18 at 2:25 pm to
IF the College Football world dislikes the current format then why the hell won't the P5 do something about it? If they don't like the criteria and the way the Committee chooses the 4 playoff teams, then make a change.

As it stands today, Alabama has been a top team for damn near an entire decade. They find a way to frick it up and chalk up a loss during the regular season, but at the end of the day they've proven that they belong in the playoffs every year so far.

Hell, winning 5 of the last 10 championships should put little doubt in the minds of the Committee that Bama is a contender, and if given the chance they will prove it on the field.

Folks bitched about the BCS because of Alabama, now they bitch the CFP because of Alabama, they bitched about over-signing, and created the "Saban Rule", the conference capped recruits to 25/yr and the man still puts a championship contender on the damn field every year.

Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 5/1/18 at 2:30 pm to
That’s terrible
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