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re: Auburn beats Bama in signing day moral victory of morals.

Posted on 2/2/12 at 9:40 am to
Posted by Monticello
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Posted on 2/2/12 at 9:40 am to
Wilson was 100% a greyshirt. Either way, like I posted several times yesterday, if my kid was told by Saban that he could commit, but might have to take a greyshirt if the numbers don't work out, my kid would be saying thanks but no thanks. All a greyshirt does is save face for a program that does not want you anymore. The kids who accept them must either love Alabama (JPW) or their parents and coaches are too stupid to guide them in a different direction.
Posted by DvlsAdvocat
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Posted on 2/2/12 at 9:40 am to
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Vlachos was a redshirt
McCall was a non qualifier
Wilson can't tell if redshirt or grey
Chapman was a redshirt


Wilson never redshirted. He played as freshman, backing up Brodie Croyle.
This post was edited on 2/2/12 at 9:41 am
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 2/2/12 at 9:40 am to
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It could also have a huge impact on the field, if many of those don't develop into good players. Chiz won't be able to process out 43% of his players in 2 yrs anymore either.


You should just go ahead and put something like this in your sig. I have a feeling you are going to be trolling with this for a long time this off season
Posted by Monticello
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Posted on 2/2/12 at 9:40 am to
Wilson was 100% a greyshirt. Either way, like I posted several times yesterday, if my kid was told by Saban that he could commit, but might have to take a greyshirt if the numbers don't work out, my kid would be saying thanks but no thanks. All a greyshirt does is save face for a program that does not want you anymore. The kids who accept them must either love Alabama (JPW) or their parents and coaches are too stupid to guide them in a different direction.
Posted by pvilleguru
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Posted on 2/2/12 at 9:41 am to
Both vlachos and Wilson greyshirted.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 2/2/12 at 9:43 am to
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vlachos


Redshirt

2007 signing class and 2007 redshirt year
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 2/2/12 at 9:48 am to
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All scholarships are for ONE year at Bama.


fify
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 2/2/12 at 9:49 am to
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if my kid was told by Saban that he could commit, but might have to take a greyshirt if the numbers don't work out, my kid would be saying thanks but no thanks


The thing is I dont believe Saban is telling them until late in the game. This is really where the recruits and parents should know better. They have several chances to keep their options open and visit other schools. Thats why I kind of feel sorry and I also dont.

Simple fact is recruitment is a high profile sales enviroment, and these kids are not mature enough to handle it in their own best interest so the moral blame is placed upon the coaches even though they are really only doing their job. Their Job is dictated by the AD and the schools stance on production
This post was edited on 2/2/12 at 9:50 am
Posted by DvlsAdvocat
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Posted on 2/2/12 at 9:50 am to
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Redshirt

2007 signing class and 2007 redshirt year


Sigh...

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June 6, 2006 - Tide lands greyshirt commitment from OL William Vlachos


Its TideFans, but its a recruiting thread from 2006
Posted by Beer Bryant
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Posted on 2/2/12 at 9:51 am to
Both signed with SEC schools. All scholarships are for one year. You can say they're for TWELVE years, but it doesn't make it so.
Posted by AUtigR24
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Posted on 2/2/12 at 9:51 am to
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After already jerking an offer within the last month to Georgia running back Justin Taylor -- who ended up signing with Kentucky on Wednesday -- Alabama yanked a scholarship offer from Philon within the last week, and possibly as late as Wednesday morning.


So who did bama give the 2 offers to that were reserved for Taylor and Philon?
Posted by Aubie Spr96
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Posted on 2/2/12 at 9:52 am to
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Maybe Auburn should take a look at the glaring number of kids entering the family on signing days of late who are not leaving with a degree from Auburn.



[link=(SEC Football Graduation Rates)]https://espn.go.com/blog/sec/post/_/id/31469/vanderbilt-has-secs-highest-graduation-rate[/link]
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According to NCAA data, here's how all 12 SEC football programs fared:
Vanderbilt: 86
LSU: 77
Florida: 76
Alabama: 69
Georgia: 65
Auburn: 63
Mississippi State: 62
Kentucky: 61
Tennessee: 61
Arkansas: 56
Ole Miss: 54
South Carolina: 39


Yeah. UAT is the Harvard of the south.....

This is Saban's what? 6th recruiting class at Bama? How many times has he signed under (25)? Has he ever released who is on scholarship and who is not?

quote:

For years, Saban has treated college football like a cutthroat business. He's skirted recruiting rules, danced around scholarship limitations and been surrounded by more career ending injuries to third-string players than any coach in the history of organized athletics.


Sad, but true.
Posted by pvilleguru
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Posted on 2/2/12 at 9:54 am to
Vlachos greyshirted, but also redshirted his first season at bama. I did a quick Google search and found an old thread talking about him accepting a greyshirt.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 2/2/12 at 9:55 am to
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Sigh...


Per Rivals He was apart of the 06-07' senior class in High School

LINK

Per Bama's website he was redshirted 07'-08' year

LINK
Posted by DvlsAdvocat
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Posted on 2/2/12 at 9:56 am to
He accepted a greyshirt offer from Shula, but when Saban got there he added Vlachos to the 2007 class.

That bastard Saban...
This post was edited on 2/2/12 at 9:57 am
Posted by bona fide
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Posted on 2/2/12 at 9:57 am to
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All scholarships are for ONE year at Bama.





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fify

.... and Auburn
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 2/2/12 at 9:58 am to
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For years, Saban has treated college football like a cutthroat business. He's skirted recruiting rules, danced around scholarship limitations and been surrounded by more career ending injuries to third-string players than any coach in the history of organized athletics.



Posted by Monticello
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 2/2/12 at 9:58 am to
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Yeah. UAT is the Harvard of the south.....


You seem to be confused. I never stated that Bama has a high graduation rate. I stated that Auburn does not. I am also not accusing Auburn of screwing over kids on signing day. You are.
Posted by diddydirtyAubie
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Posted on 2/2/12 at 10:04 am to
Darius Philon is a POS. He decommitted from Auburn and trusted Saban. Now his arse is having to go to a school 12 hours away. He got served!
This post was edited on 2/2/12 at 10:05 am
Posted by RedMustang
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Posted on 2/2/12 at 10:06 am to
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quote:


All scholarships are for ONE year at Bama.








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fify



.... and Auburn


Auburn gave all its players four year scholarships this year.
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